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<blockquote data-quote="invokethehojo" data-source="post: 4144536" data-attributes="member: 62525">My favorite characters have always the jack-of-all-trades (joats) types.&nbsp; The bard was the first class of this type and, while I enjoyed the concept, I never liked playing one.&nbsp; His spells weren't useful enough and I hated the songs, both in practice and in feel.&nbsp; There were other classes that tried to better fill this niche (spell thief, factotum, etc), and I liked them all on paper, but never quite was happy with any of them.&nbsp; Multiclassing came as close as I could get to finding my happy medium, though I always felt silly playing a character that had 1 or 2 levels in several different classes.My question is this: with 4e having clearly defined roles are jaot characters going to be extinct, or mearly a blend of two or three roles that focuses moslty on one?&nbsp; (I can think of many combinations and examples on this)&nbsp; Is multiclassing going to be the way to go to get a good joat?&nbsp; Will 4e mechanics be more joat friendly?My second question: is the bard really the way to go for a core joat class?&nbsp; With retooling I can see the bard being very cool, but does it deserve to be the first joat class, or should another class hold that title?&nbsp; Maybe a reworked factotum or spell thief is more appropriate, I'm not sure.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="invokethehojo, post: 4144536, member: 62525"] My favorite characters have always the jack-of-all-trades (joats) types. The bard was the first class of this type and, while I enjoyed the concept, I never liked playing one. His spells weren't useful enough and I hated the songs, both in practice and in feel. There were other classes that tried to better fill this niche (spell thief, factotum, etc), and I liked them all on paper, but never quite was happy with any of them. Multiclassing came as close as I could get to finding my happy medium, though I always felt silly playing a character that had 1 or 2 levels in several different classes. My question is this: with 4e having clearly defined roles are jaot characters going to be extinct, or mearly a blend of two or three roles that focuses moslty on one? (I can think of many combinations and examples on this) Is multiclassing going to be the way to go to get a good joat? Will 4e mechanics be more joat friendly? My second question: is the bard really the way to go for a core joat class? With retooling I can see the bard being very cool, but does it deserve to be the first joat class, or should another class hold that title? Maybe a reworked factotum or spell thief is more appropriate, I'm not sure. [/QUOTE]

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