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<blockquote data-quote="Cadfan" data-source="post: 4144684" data-attributes="member: 40961">Do you mean &quot;jack of all trades&quot; in the sense of &quot;borrows from every traditional type of D&amp;D character?&quot;&nbsp; Or do you mean &quot;jack of all trades&quot; in the sense of a character who is reasonably competent against pretty much any type of challenge?Because the first may be dead.But the second seems to be all the more possible, thanks to 1/2 skill ranks.&nbsp; The neat thing about a 3e &quot;jack of all trades&quot; type, at least to me, was that no matter the situation the jack of all trades had at least something he could contribute.&nbsp; The fighting types might outshine him in combat, the skill types might outshine him at skills, and so forth, but he was at least DOING something when those challenges came up, unlike the fighting types who sat out skill problems and vice versa.Ensuring that everyone gets a bit of that seems to be a professed design goal for 4e.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cadfan, post: 4144684, member: 40961"] Do you mean "jack of all trades" in the sense of "borrows from every traditional type of D&D character?" Or do you mean "jack of all trades" in the sense of a character who is reasonably competent against pretty much any type of challenge? Because the first may be dead. But the second seems to be all the more possible, thanks to 1/2 skill ranks. The neat thing about a 3e "jack of all trades" type, at least to me, was that no matter the situation the jack of all trades had at least something he could contribute. The fighting types might outshine him in combat, the skill types might outshine him at skills, and so forth, but he was at least DOING something when those challenges came up, unlike the fighting types who sat out skill problems and vice versa. Ensuring that everyone gets a bit of that seems to be a professed design goal for 4e. [/QUOTE]

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