James Earl Jones Spoils Episode III

[KnowTheToe]

Parts of episode one were great and other parts had Jar Jar in them. Me and a good friend of mine discussed this just a few days ago, he was a complete Star Wars nut for 3/4 of his life (the kind of guy who makes lightsaber replica's in a shop behind the house, the kind of guy with Star Wars wallpaper and Darth Vader light fixtures). For him it was a sad day when he realized that Lucas wasn't a god among men, but just a guy who made some good movies. We grew up watching these movies (I remember standing in line for a hour to see Star Wars when it first came out), but the movies just didn't grow up with us. The fanatical fans of the original movies are all grown up but the new movies are still aimed at kids. He expected to get three more Empire Strikes Backs but when you look back Lucas didn't direct Empire (Irvin Kershner), heck he didn't write the screenplay, Leigh Brackett and Lawrence Kasdan did, he was the executive producer, heck he only co-wrote the script for Jedi. These movies are a group effort, and it seems like the group he has around him now isn't as good as the group he had around him then. Episode 1 and 2 were both very good movies, but fans didn't want very good movies, they wanted the greatest movies of all time, they expected that and the movies didn't live up to that. Attack of the Clones wasn't even the highest grossing movie of the year it was released, and anything short of being the very best is a complete failure in the eyes of the die hard fans. If these movies were not labeled a Star Wars movies I don't think they would be disliked near as much. That and Jar Jar, which was a big poison pill, I mean really what were they thinking? It's the same people who decided to make Greedo shoot first, the people around him are just not as good as the people he used to have around him, now it seems he has a bunch of yes men who worship every idea he comes up with instead of veterans from the industry who will tell him like it is. He wrote a movie for young people but his core fan base is all grown up now.

I agree except they were only good movies, not very good.

 

[Welverin]

Parts of episode one were great and other parts had Jar Jar in them.

That's quote worthy. If you have any objections let me know.

I'm also in a SW fan who like Ep1&2. I enjoy both movies for what they are and not having unreasonable expectations went a long way towards me being able to do that.

 

[mooby]

Would it be too much to have Darth Maul actually be evil in the movie? We're told he's evil, and sure, he's red with some horns, but he isn't evil.

Darth Vader was evil.

Would it be too much to ask to see Obi Wan and Anakin actually get along in Episode II? In "Empire," Obi Wan says Anakin was a good friend. Fine, but show me. In the movie, the two are always at ends with each other, and Anakin is just a rotten teenager.

The movies make too many assumptions, and the kid who played Anakin in Episode II was horrible.

 

[jdavis]

That's quote worthy. If you have any objections let me know.

I'm also in a SW fan who like Ep1&2. I enjoy both movies for what they are and not having unreasonable expectations went a long way towards me being able to do that.

feel free

 

[jdavis]

Would it be too much to have Darth Maul actually be evil in the movie? We're told he's evil, and sure, he's red with some horns, but he isn't evil.

Darth Vader was evil.

Would it be too much to ask to see Obi Wan and Anakin actually get along in Episode II? In "Empire," Obi Wan says Anakin was a good friend. Fine, but show me. In the movie, the two are always at ends with each other, and Anakin is just a rotten teenager.

The movies make too many assumptions, and the kid who played Anakin in Episode II was horrible.

I found Darth Maul was the best stuntman in a costume actor ever. I mean you could really feel the fact that he was a stuntman in a costume. Yea a actor would of been nice, but the lightsaber battle at the end is one of my favorite Star Wars moments of all time, one of the few places where they really caught the magic ot the old movies.

My 10 year old daughter thought Anakin was dreamy.

 

[Ziona]

I'm also a SW fan who like Ep1&2. I enjoy both movies for what they are and not having unreasonable expectations went a long way towards me being able to do that.

I have to agree with you. I enjoyed the two movies because I guess I really didn't expect them to capture the magic the first 3 did. I was very excited about the release of Ep. 1, but I wasn't crushed when it wasn't New Hope (which is my fave). I have some friends who don't even consider the prequels to be part of the same story arc (they read the novels) and I had one friend who went home crying because he thought Ep. 1 was so awful.

I take them for what they were; fun, interesting sci-fi flicks. They weren't as bad as Wing Commander or anything!

 

[Welverin]

I take them for what they were; fun, interesting sci-fi flicks. They weren't as bad as Wing Commander or anything!

Hey! Wing Commander wasn't bad. Not necessarily good, but not bad and certainly not horrible. I saw a few years after it came out (on sci fi or some such) and was left wondering why so many people said it so bad.

Mortal Kombat Annihilation and Mean Guns are bad, nay horrible movies. Oh, and whatever you do, DO NOT let any one talk you into watching Mean Guns.