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<blockquote data-quote="JamesonCourage" data-source="post: 6188227" data-attributes="member: 6668292">Okay, just talked to the player of the Warpriest about his dislike of skill challenges for a little bit. It seems to boil down to a few of things:(1) He says it's hard to feel like he's can contribute oftentimes with his Warpriest, as he has a lot of penalties (armor, and he got his Wisdom up to a 20 starting out) and a limited number of trained skills (one of which is Diplomacy, which offsets a penalty he has). He says he thinks he'd enjoy them a lot more if he played his backup (a Bard), since he'd feel like the can contribute more.(2) He doesn't like them when they take a long time. He admits most of them move quickly enough, though.(3) He's not a fan of them being interrupted (with combat, etc.), but he understands why they were from a DM perspective.None of these seem like they're insurmountable. Luckily, he didn't seem to have a problem with the mechanical rigor, scaling DCs, narrative structure, etc. when I brought these up. So, some &quot;fixes&quot; that I'm currently considering:(1) Keep on eye on challenges, and maybe work in a way for his skills to come up. Also, I was considering giving a free Skill Training feat at level 5 (and maybe levels 15 and 25, if I think it works well). Also, look through to see if any multiclass feats work well for his character concept (to give more skill training)... maybe Avenger?(2) Try to keep the skill challenges shorter. He expressed a lot less of a problem with the &quot;control the portal&quot; and &quot;escape the collapsing cavern&quot; skill challenges in our current conversation than he had with the long skill challenge from our second session.(3) Limit the interruptions, and don't mix skill challenges and combat in the future. This should be easy enough to do for the most part, with rare exceptions. He seems more understanding here, so that's also good.Any feedback?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JamesonCourage, post: 6188227, member: 6668292"] Okay, just talked to the player of the Warpriest about his dislike of skill challenges for a little bit. It seems to boil down to a few of things: [B](1)[/B] He says it's hard to feel like he's can contribute oftentimes with his Warpriest, as he has a lot of penalties (armor, and he got his Wisdom up to a 20 starting out) and a limited number of trained skills (one of which is Diplomacy, which offsets a penalty he has). He says he thinks he'd enjoy them a lot more if he played his backup (a Bard), since he'd feel like the can contribute more. [B](2)[/B] He doesn't like them when they take a long time. He admits most of them move quickly enough, though. [B](3)[/B] He's not a fan of them being interrupted (with combat, etc.), but he understands why they were from a DM perspective. None of these seem like they're insurmountable. Luckily, he didn't seem to have a problem with the mechanical rigor, scaling DCs, narrative structure, etc. when I brought these up. So, some "fixes" that I'm currently considering: [B](1)[/B] Keep on eye on challenges, and maybe work in a way for his skills to come up. Also, I was considering giving a free Skill Training feat at level 5 (and maybe levels 15 and 25, if I think it works well). Also, look through to see if any multiclass feats work well for his character concept (to give more skill training)... maybe Avenger? [B](2)[/B] Try to keep the skill challenges shorter. He expressed a lot less of a problem with the "control the portal" and "escape the collapsing cavern" skill challenges in our current conversation than he had with the long skill challenge from our second session. [B](3)[/B] Limit the interruptions, and don't mix skill challenges and combat in the future. This should be easy enough to do for the most part, with rare exceptions. He seems more understanding here, so that's also good. Any feedback? [/QUOTE]

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