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<blockquote data-quote="JamesonCourage" data-source="post: 6195305" data-attributes="member: 6668292">Again, ups and downs to this. I, as DM, can imagine an Epic-level Druid using a Nature check to attempt to control or lessen an earthquake that they are present for, but I certainly can't imagine a level 1 Druid doing that. Does the player know that this is my take on things? When you tell them &quot;if you can imagine it, you can try it,&quot; and they do try it at level 1, do you let them succeed if they hit a Hard DC? Do you abandon that genre control and give it to the players? If so, what if other players don't think a level 1 Druid should be able to do that?Like I said, ups and downs.Yeah. But then we get into areas, above, where players might/will have different conceptions of what they'll be able to do. A Wizard might think &quot;okay, when we get to this point of the plan, I'll be able to do this by manipulating magic (an Arcana check, hopefully).&quot; But, if he's level 1, and nobody else thinks that this is genre-appropriate, we have a problem. How does this Wizard player know that this wouldn't work for him? As far as I can tell, it's only by running it by everyone else. Which, as I said, means I don't feel unburdened by this system. It just feels lighter, in some ways.I think I do. I'm not worried about it being filtered through me, and there's no major problems yet.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JamesonCourage, post: 6195305, member: 6668292"] Again, ups and downs to this. I, as DM, can imagine an Epic-level Druid using a Nature check to attempt to control or lessen an earthquake that they are present for, but I certainly can't imagine a level 1 Druid doing that. Does the player know that this is my take on things? When you tell them "if you can imagine it, you can try it," and they do try it at level 1, do you let them succeed if they hit a Hard DC? Do you abandon that genre control and give it to the players? If so, what if other players don't think a level 1 Druid should be able to do that? Like I said, ups and downs. Yeah. But then we get into areas, above, where players might/will have different conceptions of what they'll be able to do. A Wizard might think "okay, when we get to this point of the plan, I'll be able to do this by manipulating magic (an Arcana check, hopefully)." But, if he's level 1, and nobody else thinks that this is genre-appropriate, we have a problem. How does this Wizard player know that this wouldn't work for him? As far as I can tell, it's only by running it by everyone else. Which, as I said, means I don't feel unburdened by this system. It just feels lighter, in some ways. I think I do. I'm not worried about it being filtered through me, and there's no major problems yet. [/QUOTE]

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