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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 5424421" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>For the record, I'm pretty fond of the idea that races get extra Utilities after 1st level. That + a Theme = YAY. Though it puts a design hole in racial "attacks" like the Dragonborn's Breath Weapon. </p><p></p><p>As for the rest of it...eh. Can't see myself being a Shade, really, when there's Gnomes and Drow and Halflings and Shadar-Kai and Tieflings and, heck, Eladrin, who all can fill that role comfortably. Even though about half that list is on my "4e doesn't do it right" list for one reason or another. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> That -1 Surge isn't a horrible thing (my groups rarely get down that low), but it's a penalty for picking a race...there's going to have to be some dang compelling powers/abilities/etc. inherent in the thing for it to be worth that price of admission.</p><p></p><p>Playing a "vampire tiefling" like the Vryloka might be interesting, too.</p><p></p><p>I'm also just fond of the "Heroes of Shadow" format. Races + Classes + Feats, all with a tight theme rather than the PHSplat's often-slapdash approach, really makes me feel like the concept is being supported there, rather than presented there, to be fleshed out later, by Dragon articles, maybe.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 5424421, member: 2067"] For the record, I'm pretty fond of the idea that races get extra Utilities after 1st level. That + a Theme = YAY. Though it puts a design hole in racial "attacks" like the Dragonborn's Breath Weapon. As for the rest of it...eh. Can't see myself being a Shade, really, when there's Gnomes and Drow and Halflings and Shadar-Kai and Tieflings and, heck, Eladrin, who all can fill that role comfortably. Even though about half that list is on my "4e doesn't do it right" list for one reason or another. ;) That -1 Surge isn't a horrible thing (my groups rarely get down that low), but it's a penalty for picking a race...there's going to have to be some dang compelling powers/abilities/etc. inherent in the thing for it to be worth that price of admission. Playing a "vampire tiefling" like the Vryloka might be interesting, too. I'm also just fond of the "Heroes of Shadow" format. Races + Classes + Feats, all with a tight theme rather than the PHSplat's often-slapdash approach, really makes me feel like the concept is being supported there, rather than presented there, to be fleshed out later, by Dragon articles, maybe. [/QUOTE]
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