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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 5424671" data-attributes="member: 2067">It's not that big of a deal, but when choosing a race, it effectively makes it a less appealing choice, comparatively. It would have to come with some powerful abilities to make it appealing again, and it doesn't look like the rest of the Shade's package (from the preview, at least) is any better than the Eladrin's or the Gnome's or the Halfling's. So the person left choosing the Shade as their race is choosing it for purely thematic reasons (which is good!), but then is getting hit with a penalty for doing something thematic vs. something more mechanically sound (penalties for roleplaying? Baaad!).I don't think it's a big deal, but if, in 6 months or so, WotC wonders why Shades don't have &quot;traction,&quot; that one racial feature could be it. A penalty for choosing a race just doesn't endear that race to anyone. Comparing it to Small is pretty fair, because it's only harmful to an archetype (They both hit Defenders, and Small hits Large Weapon Users and -1 Surge hits any melee build), but I think Small has too much genre-push to make it something that the game should try and do without. The same isn't necessarily true of -1 Surge. Anyway, it's a datapoint. Not a huge deal if one more race doesn't get used that often. Join the Gnoll pile! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 5424671, member: 2067"] It's not that big of a deal, but when choosing a race, it effectively makes it a less appealing choice, comparatively. It would have to come with some powerful abilities to make it appealing again, and it doesn't look like the rest of the Shade's package (from the preview, at least) is any better than the Eladrin's or the Gnome's or the Halfling's. So the person left choosing the Shade as their race is choosing it for purely thematic reasons (which is good!), but then is getting hit with a penalty for doing something thematic vs. something more mechanically sound (penalties for roleplaying? Baaad!). I don't think it's a big deal, but if, in 6 months or so, WotC wonders why Shades don't have "traction," that one racial feature could be it. A penalty for choosing a race just doesn't endear that race to anyone. Comparing it to Small is pretty fair, because it's only harmful to an archetype (They both hit Defenders, and Small hits Large Weapon Users and -1 Surge hits any melee build), but I think Small has too much genre-push to make it something that the game should try and do without. The same isn't necessarily true of -1 Surge. Anyway, it's a datapoint. Not a huge deal if one more race doesn't get used that often. Join the Gnoll pile! ;) [/QUOTE]

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