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<blockquote data-quote="Aegeri" data-source="post: 5425361" data-attributes="member: 78116">You realize the Half-Orc slayer can pull out a longbow and pew away as much as he feels like just as effectively right? He isn't paying a cost to have an executioners axe, he can just as easily use a longbow and then charge later on (or if an enemy is in reach switch stance and attack with battle wrath). Actually this is pretty much applicable to any slayer to be honest.Similarly, there can also be encounters where monsters with special sight, like tremorsense can spot you coming and make any such scouting irrelevant.Also, you don't need a standard action power to do this. Stealth outside of combat can be done in full sunlight if your enemies aren't paying attention.And again, a rogue can take cunning sneak and get for free what costs this race a standard action. That's a far better deal and the rogue can take a race that won't have half its features wasted for it.No it doesn't, it says you can use allies as cover - not creatures. Enemies never grant you cover and so your argument doesn't work.You need to examine the stealth rules again, bearing in mind outside of combat the shade cannot do anything that anyone else trained in stealth can do.The standard action is a huge sink though in terms of actions. This is something that keeps being avoided, but it is hard to argue with compared to the likes of the cunning sneak. Who gets the same thing and gets it for free.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Aegeri, post: 5425361, member: 78116"] You realize the Half-Orc slayer can pull out a longbow and pew away as much as he feels like just as effectively right? He isn't paying a cost to have an executioners axe, he can just as easily use a longbow and then charge later on (or if an enemy is in reach switch stance and attack with battle wrath). Actually this is pretty much applicable to any slayer to be honest. Similarly, there can also be encounters where monsters with special sight, like tremorsense can spot you coming and make any such scouting irrelevant. Also, you don't need a standard action power to do this. Stealth outside of combat can be done in full sunlight if your enemies aren't paying attention. And again, a rogue can take cunning sneak and get for free what costs this race a standard action. That's a far better deal and the rogue can take a race that won't have half its features wasted for it. No it doesn't, it says you can use allies as cover - not creatures. Enemies never grant you cover and so your argument doesn't work. You need to examine the stealth rules again, bearing in mind outside of combat the shade cannot do anything that anyone else trained in stealth can do. The standard action is a huge sink though in terms of actions. This is something that keeps being avoided, but it is hard to argue with compared to the likes of the cunning sneak. Who gets the same thing and gets it for free. [/QUOTE]

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