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<blockquote data-quote="overgeeked" data-source="post: 9104418" data-attributes="member: 86653">Perhaps preemptively labelling the opposite style would be beneficial. Because the opposite of “player skill” in this context is “character skill.” If people insist on saying “skilled play” when that’s not really what’s being talked about that will inevitably lead to the opposite being “unskilled play,” and at that point it’s practically an own goal.People will get offended and take offense just because they can, regardless of whether they actually are or not. We shouldn’t pretend this is some closed community with 100% good-faith actors. Trolls exist and will troll. We can’t stop that and people learn to skirt the letter of the rules real fast. Any attempt to build consensus is doomed to fail on a public forum.A lot of people are perfectly capable of talking up their cool thing without talking down someone else’s. Generally it’s the people in the second group taking offense and going on the attack that’s the problem.“Man, I love old-school skilled play…” “How dare you say new-school is unskilled play!”“I love when I have agency as a player in game X…”“How dare you say you lack agency in game Y!”“I love chocolate ice cream.”“How dare you say you hate strawberry ice cream.”</blockquote>

[QUOTE="overgeeked, post: 9104418, member: 86653"] Perhaps preemptively labelling the opposite style would be beneficial. Because the opposite of “player skill” in this context is “character skill.” If people insist on saying “skilled play” when that’s not really what’s being talked about that will inevitably lead to the opposite being “unskilled play,” and at that point it’s practically an own goal. People will get offended and take offense just because they can, regardless of whether they actually are or not. We shouldn’t pretend this is some closed community with 100% good-faith actors. Trolls exist and will troll. We can’t stop that and people learn to skirt the letter of the rules real fast. Any attempt to build consensus is doomed to fail on a public forum. A lot of people are perfectly capable of talking up their cool thing without talking down someone else’s. Generally it’s the people in the second group taking offense and going on the attack that’s the problem. “Man, I love old-school skilled play…” “How dare you say new-school is unskilled play!” “I love when I have agency as a player in game X…” “How dare you say you lack agency in game Y!” “I love chocolate ice cream.” “How dare you say you hate strawberry ice cream.” [/QUOTE]

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