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<blockquote data-quote="Barendd Nobeard" data-source="post: 80780" data-attributes="member: 960">Re: Just so I understand....A &quot;real movie&quot; (your term, not mine)?&nbsp; I didn't know that &quot;these&quot; films weren't real.&nbsp; They're no less real than anything else commited to celluloid.As someone who once wrote a college paper (in grad school, no less) on Plan 9 from Outer Space - and got an A on it - I'd have to say the latter.A more challenging intellectual exercise would be to defend &quot;bad&quot; movies, in spite of what all the pretentious intellectuals would try to force down our throats as &quot;good&quot; cinema.You can't try to claim any particular type/style/whatever as the &quot;standard&quot; for &quot;good&quot; films.&nbsp; You can't define &quot;good film&quot; because one person's trash is another person's gold, and vice versa.&nbsp; (Now Vice Versa - that's a great film!)&nbsp; Give me all 10 Friday the 13th films (as &quot;bad&quot; as they are), back-to-back, over that pretentious Meryl Streep Sophie's Choice crap any day.&nbsp; That movie should never have been made (same can be said for Patch Adams, The Bonfire of the Vanities, or any other number of &quot;Hollywood&quot; films, like Rain Yawn or RoboBore).Although, in all honesty, I must state that the Ft13th films can never aspire to take the place of the master, ED WOOD.Barendd Nobeard&quot;Because all you of Earth are idiots!&quot; - Eros (Dudley Manlove), in Ed Wood's Plan 9 from Outer SpaceP.S.&nbsp; My god.&nbsp; I just realized that Plan 9 has an actor named &quot;Manlove&quot; playing a character named 'Eros' in a film directed by an acknowledged transvestite.&nbsp; Genius, I tell you, genius!&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />P.P.S.&nbsp; In case you can't tell, I believe &quot;artistic preferences&quot; are subjective.&nbsp; Thank god we have John Waters to watch as an antidote to the pretentious pablum that passes for distinguished film these days.&nbsp; Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to watch Polyester - filmed in glorious &quot;Odorama&quot; (and the DVD comes with a new scratch-n-sniff &quot;Odorama&quot; card--oh happy day!).P.P.P.S.&nbsp; First one to properly ascertain where I am serious and where I am kidding (in this post only), will win a DVD.&nbsp; Of my choice.&nbsp; Hope you all like The English Patient, My Mother, the Car, or Faster Pussycat! Kill! KILL!!&nbsp; Bwaahaaahaaahaaahaaa.....</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Barendd Nobeard, post: 80780, member: 960"] [b]Re: Just so I understand....[/b] A "real movie" (your term, not mine)? I didn't know that "these" films weren't real. They're no less real than anything else commited to celluloid. As someone who once wrote a college paper (in grad school, no less) on [i]Plan 9 from Outer Space[/i] - and got an [b]A[/b] on it - I'd have to say the latter. A more challenging intellectual exercise would be to defend "bad" movies, in spite of what all the pretentious intellectuals would try to force down our throats as "good" cinema. You can't try to claim any particular type/style/whatever as the "standard" for "good" films. You can't define "good film" because one person's trash is another person's gold, and vice versa. (Now [i]Vice Versa[/i] - [b]that's[/b] a great film!) Give me all 10 [i]Friday the 13th[/i] films (as "bad" as they are), back-to-back, over that pretentious Meryl Streep [i]Sophie's Choice[/i] crap any day. That movie should never have been made (same can be said for [i]Patch Adams[/i], [i]The Bonfire of the Vanities[/i], or any other number of "Hollywood" films, like [i]Rain Yawn[/i] or [i]RoboBore[/i]). Although, in all honesty, I must state that the Ft13th films can never aspire to take the place of the master, [b]ED WOOD[/b]. Barendd Nobeard "Because all you of Earth are idiots!" - Eros (Dudley Manlove), in Ed Wood's [i]Plan 9 from Outer Space[/i] P.S. My god. I just realized that [i]Plan 9[/i] has an actor named "Manlove" playing a character named 'Eros' in a film directed by an acknowledged transvestite. Genius, I tell you, genius! :D P.P.S. In case you can't tell, I believe "artistic preferences" are subjective. Thank god we have [b]John Waters[/b] to watch as an antidote to the pretentious pablum that passes for distinguished film these days. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to watch [i]Polyester[/i] - filmed in glorious "Odorama" (and the DVD comes with a new scratch-n-sniff "Odorama" card--oh happy day!). P.P.P.S. First one to properly ascertain where I am serious and where I am kidding (in this post only), will win a DVD. Of my choice. Hope you all like [i]The English Patient[/i], [i]My Mother, the Car[/i], or [i]Faster Pussycat! Kill! KILL![/i]! Bwaahaaahaaahaaahaaa..... [/QUOTE]

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