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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 9635466" data-attributes="member: 7635">I started long after 1e was out of print. I got my first 1e books when in college when eBay became a thing. Looking backwards, I was astonished how... unrefined 1e was. The rules were everywhere. Gary's meandering prose meant finding anything a hassle and understanding it moreso. I still can't tell you how initiative in 1e is supposed to work per RAW. 2nd edition has its problems, but if I was going to ever play an older edition, I think it would be much easier to start with 2e and integrate elements* from 1e than to start with 1e and try to go forward. * Honestly, by the end of 2e, everything I would have ever wanted from 1e was back anyway. Half-orc was back as of Humanoid's Handbook, there were a few variants of monk and assassin (the best was in Scarlet Brotherhood, which made proper 2e versions of the 1e classes) and the barbarian from the Complete Barbarian's Handbook, less all the weird "you can't adventure with mages" BS. There is no element of 1e I find superior to 2e where mechanics are concerned.</blockquote>