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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cadence" data-source="post: 8110514" data-attributes="member: 6701124">I was going to support my point by posting that in the 1e UA (so way back in 1985) we got the stats for the different kinds of Elves... but I pulled up what the mods are, and.. I just can't.  You win.The bonuses for some of them seem less sensible to me than the Valley Elves."Valley elves are thought to be an offshoot of the gray elves, and have all powers and abilities of that sub-race, plus the ability to speak the gnomish language. Valley elves are unusually tall, some of them growing to the height of humans. They are shunned by other elven sub-races, who do not consider them “true elves.” The name of valley elves is derived from the Valley of the Mage, where the sub-race is headquartered in the WORLD OF GREYHAWK‘“ Fantasy Game Setting, but valley elves are equally at home in any similarly far-removed section of the world free of other elvish influences."I somehow (mercifully) had forgotten this, but will now do all gnomes in valspeak. Like totally, fer shur.</blockquote>