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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8115508" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Well, I'm going to be following the rules. And unless I use enlarge on a Tielfing, there is no way to make someone 10 ft tall and purple. But since it doesn't matter why any race as any given ASI, then Tasha's rules can't break any lore or anything else. Because, in your own words "Huh.  Here I thought mountain dwarves got a +2 to strength and hill dwarves got a +1 to wisdom because that's what the PHB told us they got.  Also, that they're fantasy made up races and can be just about anything." So, my point is you have been arguing for an arbitrary adherence to arbitrary rules that you don't even really care about. Id it doesn't matter why the Dwarves get their bonuses, then it doesn't matter if they are changed.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Wow. just wow. See, if the sub-race stats don't matter, why do the Racial stats? I mean, those are a lot easier to defend, since races like Firbolgs and Kenku are generally incredibly one-note with them basically being copied and pasted between settings, so there isn't all this confusion due to, you know, actually having multiple versions of lore. However, that doesn't absolve us of other problems. Just off the top of my head, with your +2 to your "standard" stat and +2 floating, you would need to decide what is the most important stat for a lot of races. Are Dragonborn more defined by their strength or their charisma? Tritons by their Strength, Consitution, or Charisma? Bugbears by their Strength or their Dexterity? But, I get the feeling that like Oofta, you don't really care. You aren't arguing from any solid position. After all, to requote you "I said the specific fluff to explain it doesn't matter."It doesn't matter why they have those stats, you just want them to have them. There doesn't need to be a reason. And, of course, Tasha's rules will allow you to give them those stats, if you desire to. They are arbitrarily assigned now, and later, so nothing has changed. But, you are just going to stick with the pre-assignments, and maybe bother to box in the other races. Or maybe not.</blockquote>

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