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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GreenTengu" data-source="post: 8117308" data-attributes="member: 6777454">You accuse me of being a min/maxer, but what I am honestly sick of, and have been for decades is the naughty word elf powergamers.There is some interpretation of elves that make them the absolute best at everything. So when it comes to design, they get all the goodies and then some.Then when it comes to designing a race that isn't the designer's favorite that they design the entire edition around empowering, if it is something they transparently begrudge players even choosing-- Orcs for example, the entrire race gets transparently shafted.Without any formula or format, that is easy to get away with.But if everything a race grants is something that can be gained through class combination, that sort of naughty word naturally goes away. There is a transparent formula for when a race grants either too much or too little bonus.That forces the designers into cutting back on giving everything to their favorite and putting actual thought and effort into the others so one doesn't feel utterly naughty word over if they try to play one.</blockquote>