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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scott Christian" data-source="post: 8119243" data-attributes="member: 6901101">And then they rewrote and changed the race... s... Oh wait. They didn't. As I said, some will read that and gleam what they want. It does list those other things. We all know this. But the language clearly implies they biological, like age, size, speed, and special abilities. Of course language and alignment are learned. Common sense should tell you that. Just like it should tell you the biological features.I have watched you argue with many on here. About how it only applies to PC's. Yet clearly the language in here states it is not just the PC's, but the entire race. Lastly, you accuse me of cherry picking or not placing everything on the board. I listed the entire statements from all the races. All of the statements. To not list the other stuff is not to mislead, and you know that. We all know the PHB. It is to point out the language the writers used, and how that language clearly demonstrates exactly the opposite of what you have said. Here it is again:"Your dwarf character has an assortment of inborn abilities, part and parcel of Dwarven nature - +2 con.""Your elf character has a variety of natural abilities, the result of thousands of years of elven refinement - +2 dex.""You halfling character has a number of traits in common with all other halflings - +2 dex.""It's hard to make generalizations about humans, but your human character has these traits - +1 for all abilities.""Your draconic heritage manifests in a variety of traits you share with other dragonborn - +2 str.""Your gnome character has certain characteristics in common with all other gnomes - +2 int.""Your half-elf character has some qualities in common with elves and some that are unique to half-elves - +2 cha.""Your half-orc character has certain traits deriving from your orc ancestry - +2 str.""Tieflings share certain racial traits as a result of their infernal descent - +2 cha."I will do what you did. Turning to one at random, the halfling states their traits are in common with all other halflings. Notice it doesn't say in common with all other halfling characters. It says halflings. Here is another random one: half-orc character has certain traits deriving from your orc ancestry. Read the passages and take what you want from them. But I said it earlier, it is disingenuous to play devil's advocate or argue for the sake of arguing without at least stating that is what you are doing. You are clearly wrong on this. Clearly. To say, "Huh, I didn't look at like that, but it is apparent that's what they meant," would be a mature step.If you want to debate its effects or even how the cap institutes the irrelevance of solidified versus floating ASI's or how the lore will not change. That's cool. I'm all ears.</blockquote>

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