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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scrivener of Doom" data-source="post: 7666484" data-attributes="member: 87576">And thanks to their lack of communication, we won't actually know until it happens.There was a certain half-assedness to Essentials that, to me at least, seemed like an active case of throwing in the towel. It was inconsistent with the primary article of faith of post-TSR D&D: the PHB is the biggest seller so there was no Essentials PHB. It was inconsistent in terms of the physical size of the books. It was inconsistent in that the new Red Box basically used different rules to 4E proper which limited its utility as a true introductory product.Those inconsistencies, to me, add up to "throwing in the towel" and ensuring the edition is dead... which makes sense when plan A is seen as someone else's fault and you have already worked up a plan B.</blockquote>