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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 7667214" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>I'm not asking them to support two games at once.</p><p></p><p>I'm asking them to actually make good on their rhetoric. Numerous times, they have said that they want to take "the best" from every edition; numerous times they have specifically said they're including important things from 4e; numerous times they have been surprised that 4e fans very often feel left in the lurch. There is an extremely clear gap between what WotC's employees think their game accomplishes, with regard to "big tent" design, and what certain segments of their fanbase think about that design.</p><p></p><p>Obviously there will always be hardcore uncompromising partisans. I'd like to think I'm not one of those, but I could very well be (generally, part of being an extremist is that you don't think your views <em>are</em> "extreme"). My point has nothing to do with the people who want to see their pet edition (and I freely admit that my pet edition is 4e) become "the" (or even "a") "officially" supported edition again. My point is specifically about the way WotC employees describe 5e. They repeatedly and stridently insist that 5e embraces "all" the ways that D&D is played, that no edition has been left out. Yet, as I have noted repeatedly, it is very difficult to recapture the playstyle which 4e specifically catered to. I do not deny that 4e is a specific flavor and that some people won't like it.</p><p></p><p>I just don't like being told, "Our new sampler contains the best of every flavor!" only to find that my favorite almond creams have been left out, and that the inclusion of chopped almond bits on a completely different type of chocolate is seen as enough, in light of there being more chocolates that use dark rather than milk chocolate. Further, numerous promises have been made that the sampler will be expanded to include chocolates that, if not identical to the one I want, will at least contain almonds and cream and other salient features, only for those promises to slowly disappear and the awaited result either never happening at all, or being "well we have some chocolates with cream, and some chocolates with almonds, so surely you can get your creamy almond flavor, right?"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 7667214, member: 6790260"] I'm not asking them to support two games at once. I'm asking them to actually make good on their rhetoric. Numerous times, they have said that they want to take "the best" from every edition; numerous times they have specifically said they're including important things from 4e; numerous times they have been surprised that 4e fans very often feel left in the lurch. There is an extremely clear gap between what WotC's employees think their game accomplishes, with regard to "big tent" design, and what certain segments of their fanbase think about that design. Obviously there will always be hardcore uncompromising partisans. I'd like to think I'm not one of those, but I could very well be (generally, part of being an extremist is that you don't think your views [I]are[/I] "extreme"). My point has nothing to do with the people who want to see their pet edition (and I freely admit that my pet edition is 4e) become "the" (or even "a") "officially" supported edition again. My point is specifically about the way WotC employees describe 5e. They repeatedly and stridently insist that 5e embraces "all" the ways that D&D is played, that no edition has been left out. Yet, as I have noted repeatedly, it is very difficult to recapture the playstyle which 4e specifically catered to. I do not deny that 4e is a specific flavor and that some people won't like it. I just don't like being told, "Our new sampler contains the best of every flavor!" only to find that my favorite almond creams have been left out, and that the inclusion of chopped almond bits on a completely different type of chocolate is seen as enough, in light of there being more chocolates that use dark rather than milk chocolate. Further, numerous promises have been made that the sampler will be expanded to include chocolates that, if not identical to the one I want, will at least contain almonds and cream and other salient features, only for those promises to slowly disappear and the awaited result either never happening at all, or being "well we have some chocolates with cream, and some chocolates with almonds, so surely you can get your creamy almond flavor, right?" [/QUOTE]
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