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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nellisir" data-source="post: 7667247" data-attributes="member: 70">It is pretty meta, but sometimes it's really useful to break things down. I think this is a really good post, btw.That is correct. I think you might be off about my standards for supported game. Will get to it below.True for intents and purposes.Ah, see, I think there's a bit of a leap here. I haven't asked for 2e levels of support. I don't think I've even asked for 3e levels of support (except possibly in the digital realm). True.I think WotC has been remarkably vague in their strategy. I ALSO think that a portion of the internet has interpreted that vagueness into a pretty strict orthodoxy. I think WotC should be less vague in a number of points, but I don't have a problem with what they've actually said. It's not WHAT they've said, it's HOW they've said it. I DO disagree with the interpretation that's been bestowed.Right, we have different standards. To use your starting question, the back catalog lacks an easy point of entry for any newcomers into FR and Greyhawk (and Mystara). There are at least four points of entry into Greyhawk (gold box set; FTA; TAB; 3e book) , and a similar number into the Forgotten Realms (grey box set; big box set; 3e; 4e). There's also no clear guide/path through the material. For instance, I'm a newby. I like the 5e Starter Set. I go online and buy...the big box set. What then? Waterdeep and the North? The Waterdeep hardcover? (I think there was one.) The Savage North softcover? The 4e book (Neverwinter?)? I've just read about The Sundering; which book covers that?I think that you might be underestimating how much easier your existing knowledge makes the process. There is a recent thread here on EN World asking what to buy to start a FR campaign (OP was leaning towards 4e book, under the assumption that more recent = more informative.) We disagree. That's cool.I'm not sure exactly what you're defining as fiction, but...sure. Perkins' statement was a good example of a vague announcement that's been interpreted a particular way. I don't have a problem with what he's said, because he hasn't really said anything.I think any talk about "settings" conflates several different topics: static information (waterdeep is a city); game mechanics (Khelben is X level); and campaign narrative thread (Khelben is dead). The static information is largely edition-neutral; the game mechanics in the back catalog are not current (it's possible to convert, but without a guide to converting, it's not necessarily intuitive, particularly for new DMs. If an item grants Strength 18/99, what does that mean?); and the campaign narrative is confusing and/or out-of-date in the most prominent cases (GH, FR, Mystara).I have to go. Good talk. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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