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<blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 7661109" data-attributes="member: 58197"><p>Citation please. To the best of my knowledge, they have said no such thing. They have said that there are <strong>certain areas</strong> in the Stealth rules which are intentionally left to DM judgement. And it's true: The Stealth rules have certain areas that are <em>explicitly</em> left to DM judgement, like deciding when a creature is "distracted" and you can sneak up behind it.</p><p></p><p>This is a perfectly good solution to a thorny problem, and I have no objection to it. What I have a problem with is the <em>rest</em> of the Stealth rules, which are written in a way that suggests they are meant to be taken as rules, but it's not clear what the rules are.</p><p></p><p>I mean, come on. If there was no intent in that sidebar, <em>why the heck is it there at all</em>? It took somebody a fair bit of time to write. It takes up a good chunk of a page in the PHB, where space was at a premium by all accounts. Why did they not simply say, "Your DM decides when you can use Stealth and how it interacts with Perception," and leave it at that? If that whole sidebar is just blather and we're supposed to make something up, then they were deliberately confusing their customers, because... what?</p><p></p><p>I am fairly certain they did in fact have an intended rule there. They just didn't explain it clearly. Which, okay, I get it, they had a lot to do and not a lot of people to do it with, and that section just slipped past. No biggie; they can just tell us how they meant for it to work, and clarify it in the next printing of the PHB.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dausuul, post: 7661109, member: 58197"] Citation please. To the best of my knowledge, they have said no such thing. They have said that there are [b]certain areas[/b] in the Stealth rules which are intentionally left to DM judgement. And it's true: The Stealth rules have certain areas that are [I]explicitly[/I] left to DM judgement, like deciding when a creature is "distracted" and you can sneak up behind it. This is a perfectly good solution to a thorny problem, and I have no objection to it. What I have a problem with is the [i]rest[/i] of the Stealth rules, which are written in a way that suggests they are meant to be taken as rules, but it's not clear what the rules are. I mean, come on. If there was no intent in that sidebar, [i]why the heck is it there at all[/i]? It took somebody a fair bit of time to write. It takes up a good chunk of a page in the PHB, where space was at a premium by all accounts. Why did they not simply say, "Your DM decides when you can use Stealth and how it interacts with Perception," and leave it at that? If that whole sidebar is just blather and we're supposed to make something up, then they were deliberately confusing their customers, because... what? I am fairly certain they did in fact have an intended rule there. They just didn't explain it clearly. Which, okay, I get it, they had a lot to do and not a lot of people to do it with, and that section just slipped past. No biggie; they can just tell us how they meant for it to work, and clarify it in the next printing of the PHB. [/QUOTE]
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