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<blockquote data-quote="Andrew Moreton" data-source="post: 7890324" data-attributes="member: 6920268"><p>I largely agree with evrything Arkwright said with the emphasis that the Sultan is dumb and has no idea how big a place the planet is or how dangerous the inhabitants are . He is lucky that when he killed the wolf cub circumstances managed to blame someone else of the Ash-Wolf would have exterminated him on day 1. He has nothing like the resources to take Risur let alone the rest of the world.</p><p></p><p>How they got there , I would assume the ancients check was quick and potentially flawed they were fighting a war against deadly opponents and needed this fast and as suggested they needed a plane of fire and the best they could do was one with a few Salamanders. I also think the explanation of them slicing a bit off the plane of fire may be a hold over from an early draft it does not seem to fit the rest of the cosmology with the other planets all being complete planes. I think the standard planar osmology of the 4 elemental planes , positive, negative and Ethereal does not fit this multiverse and instead there are many planes swimming around in the sky which could become a plane of fire or other plane. I do still stick with the Higher planes but have them cut off so I suppose that makes the plane of space the gateway to the Astral and the outer planes.</p><p></p><p>There are some really awesome city of Brass source materials out there , most of them way to epic to stick in Jierre as anything other than a map. One of them could be an interesting alternate plane of fire in book 12</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Andrew Moreton, post: 7890324, member: 6920268"] I largely agree with evrything Arkwright said with the emphasis that the Sultan is dumb and has no idea how big a place the planet is or how dangerous the inhabitants are . He is lucky that when he killed the wolf cub circumstances managed to blame someone else of the Ash-Wolf would have exterminated him on day 1. He has nothing like the resources to take Risur let alone the rest of the world. How they got there , I would assume the ancients check was quick and potentially flawed they were fighting a war against deadly opponents and needed this fast and as suggested they needed a plane of fire and the best they could do was one with a few Salamanders. I also think the explanation of them slicing a bit off the plane of fire may be a hold over from an early draft it does not seem to fit the rest of the cosmology with the other planets all being complete planes. I think the standard planar osmology of the 4 elemental planes , positive, negative and Ethereal does not fit this multiverse and instead there are many planes swimming around in the sky which could become a plane of fire or other plane. I do still stick with the Higher planes but have them cut off so I suppose that makes the plane of space the gateway to the Astral and the outer planes. There are some really awesome city of Brass source materials out there , most of them way to epic to stick in Jierre as anything other than a map. One of them could be an interesting alternate plane of fire in book 12 [/QUOTE]
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