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<blockquote data-quote="QuentinGeorge" data-source="post: 7998442" data-attributes="member: 20990"><p>That's because the official position of the apostolic and pre-Reformation churchs (Catholic, Orthodox, Coptic) was and still is that there is no such thing as witchcraft or magic. All power comes from God and you can't commune with the devil or demons from below and get magic powers. Pre-Reformation no one got into trouble for "being a witch" or the like, you were more likely to get into trouble for accusing someone being a witch, because that is heresy. No 12th century bishop would be worrying about witchcraft, even though 12th century bishops had way more interactions with paganism than a modernism is. (Not to mention wicca and the like are not even slightly related to the old faiths. They are basically zeerust-ish reconstruction by 19th century antiquarians. Ditto hermetic traditions. They aren't authentic, they are 17th-19th century cosplay in a nutshell. Just like the Masons. Or Tarot Cards).</p><p></p><p>The reformation opened the floodgates, however, and these claims are more common in countries where Protestantism formed a great deal of the cultural landscape, especially the US - I think the New World's history of Great Revivals and as a haven for heretical and often persecuted christian sects explains a lot of the different religious ideas floating about.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="QuentinGeorge, post: 7998442, member: 20990"] That's because the official position of the apostolic and pre-Reformation churchs (Catholic, Orthodox, Coptic) was and still is that there is no such thing as witchcraft or magic. All power comes from God and you can't commune with the devil or demons from below and get magic powers. Pre-Reformation no one got into trouble for "being a witch" or the like, you were more likely to get into trouble for accusing someone being a witch, because that is heresy. No 12th century bishop would be worrying about witchcraft, even though 12th century bishops had way more interactions with paganism than a modernism is. (Not to mention wicca and the like are not even slightly related to the old faiths. They are basically zeerust-ish reconstruction by 19th century antiquarians. Ditto hermetic traditions. They aren't authentic, they are 17th-19th century cosplay in a nutshell. Just like the Masons. Or Tarot Cards). The reformation opened the floodgates, however, and these claims are more common in countries where Protestantism formed a great deal of the cultural landscape, especially the US - I think the New World's history of Great Revivals and as a haven for heretical and often persecuted christian sects explains a lot of the different religious ideas floating about.) [/QUOTE]
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