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Message: <blockquote data-quote="takyris" data-source="post: 2048566" data-attributes="member: 5171">I liked it -- but then, I liked the old show, too.  I think that this one really pays off if you've been watching the show for awhile. That's not to discount the personal likes and dislikes element, but that might well be a factor.  I'm not sure if you've seen all of the current season, but if so, there could be stuff that didn't make sense.In the second season, Luthor was pardoned after he used his absurd (but hilarious as a tongue-in-cheek nod to an old Super-friends episode that used the exact same premise) "Drain all powers from hero, even if their powers are magic, or innate as alien abilities, or if they come from a device" weapon to take out the Justice Lords (the alternate-dimension League, as mentioned in this ep).  Luthor is, in Season Three, once again a respected businessman with a lot of power.  I personally found that hard to believe (that is, I find it hard to believe that the world is ready to trust a guy who tramped through the city in laser-firing power armor), but it was nice to get Luthor back onto the table as a charismatic potential villain, and, well, the government must have some sort of Department of Overly Trusting Pardons that handles Luthor and Arvin Sloane's cases... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Two options here.1) We misunderstood something, and things actually started earlier for the Doomsday project.  In point of fact, we know this to be true, because the Superman episode "Legacy" aired before Justice League started.  In this episode, Superman, under the mind control of Darkseid, attacks Earth.  He eventually breaks the control, remembers who he is, and throws down hard on Darkseid (and does so again in a very good episode from last season involving Supes, Darkseid, and Brainiac, with Batman shining a spotlight on Superman's pain and shame from having been mind-frelled), but not before being zapped and captured by the military -- who are prepared to kill him.  It was established in this season's episode with Supergirl and the Question that the folks at Starlabs grabbed some tissue from Supergirl during this fight, realizing the scariness of a world where Superman was not the good guy.  Since they had Superman unconscious in that episode, too, it makes sense that they'd have done a tissue scrape as well to make their own "Controllable Superman".  That's likely where Doomsday came from, and it would just be a writing error (or our misunderstanding) that makes it sound like Doomsday didn't happen until after the Justice Lords episode.  The actual timetable would be something like "Superman gets mind-frelled by Darkseid, scientists grab tissue sample and begin black-ops project, Justice Lords show up, government formalizes the project or combines multiple independent projects together under the Project Cadmus label".1.5) In the show, Bizarro is actually a degraded clone of Superman -- he dates back to the Superman show as well, even earlier.  He was made by Luthor, who is apparently funding Cadmus, so it's possible that after Legacy (Supes gets mind-frelled and goes bad), Luthor made Doomsday and worked with the government to anti-Superman-program him -- and then they gave up, thinking "Man, we'll just use Supergirl instead.  She looks better in a halter top," shot him into space, and set into motion the events in Justice Lords.  So again, the Doomsday project existed before Cadmus, as an independent project.2) The guy telling Doomsday this story was lying.  Doomsday was actually an alien, and the government has just been anti-Superman programming him since he got lobotomized.  It's in the government's interest to have this guy on a leash -- he's the only guy they can get their hands on who went ten rounds with Superman and kept going.  Him being partially lobotomized just makes him more tractable.For the record, I really liked this episode -- loved getting to see Superman actually fight back, loved the tone of Superman telling Wonder Woman to keep working with the refugees instead of helping him ("This is less important..."), and loved the whole scene at the end with Bruce and Superman.  I could see Bruce's point of view -- I don't see what else could have been done with Doomsday, but it nevertheless showed that Superman, while unwilling to kill, feels himself justified in passing judgment in certain situations.  And that feeling of justification could grow.  And Kevin Conroy's delivery of "You don't get to joke!  Not today!  I took a bullet for you!" was spot-on.But mileage may vary -- this felt a lot like a set-up episode.</blockquote>

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