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Joe Manganiello: Compares Early 5E to BG 3 . How Important is Lore?
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<blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 9261273" data-attributes="member: 6716779"><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/joe-manganiello-compares-baldurs-gate-3-to-early-dungeons-dragons-fifth-edition/[/URL]</p><p></p><p> </p><p> So in other thread people have talked about how WotC has butchered Spelljammer, Dragonlance and Ravenloft with their reimaginings.</p><p></p><p> Seems like sales are down as well from the bookscan sata.</p><p></p><p> Recurring trend seems to be every few years they think updating lore people will win new fans. That's the theory and what people said in 4E.</p><p></p><p> Seems like you end up appealing to no one. People complaining eother dont buy new product anyway or theres not enough of them. And you alienate existing fans.Personally I reject reimaginings generally across all media D&D specifically. Make quality product new and old will buy it.</p><p></p><p> I used to like FR lore a lot but it's never recovered for from the 4E nuking of the Realms. BG3 however does blend old and new togather very well. The Shar and Sune thing is a major subplot and I fell in love with that type of lore back in 1996 with Faith's and Avatars. My love of mythology predates D&D going back to age 5 or with archeology and Roman Deities via Asterix and Obelix by Totatus.</p><p></p><p> Illithids also are a major theme in BG3. Well that's also going through 2E Spelljammer, the Illithid book in 3E, 3.5 Book of Aberrations, and the 5E Volo books. New Gith lore freshest out the old Fiend Folo lore I was reading before I even played D&D. It's how I got into the game.</p><p></p><p> I don't mind new stuff either eg Ravnica, Theros, Wildemont but I hate reimaginings. Golarion then Midgard replaced FR for me. 5E Eberron was new but respectful of the old same with BG3. I bought Theros, Ravnica, Eberron, and Wildemont (haven't played any of them them I like reading and collecting).</p><p></p><p> Have not bought Dragonlance, Spelljammer or Strixgaven. Did get Ravenloft as it was basically free (did not like 2E Ravenloft). New one was more lackluster than bad.</p><p></p><p> New Multiverse book also got essentially for free and kinda felt ripped off as it is essentially a book of errata. That was one of the last 5E books I bought. Declining quality and charging for errata is a pass for me.</p><p></p><p> That story through the edition is what has kept me around. Its kot the mechanics tbh. Big flaws in 4E pushing its mechanics when I don’t really care that much for them when it comes to D&D.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zardnaar, post: 9261273, member: 6716779"] [URL unfurl="true"]https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/joe-manganiello-compares-baldurs-gate-3-to-early-dungeons-dragons-fifth-edition/[/URL] So in other thread people have talked about how WotC has butchered Spelljammer, Dragonlance and Ravenloft with their reimaginings. Seems like sales are down as well from the bookscan sata. Recurring trend seems to be every few years they think updating lore people will win new fans. That's the theory and what people said in 4E. Seems like you end up appealing to no one. People complaining eother dont buy new product anyway or theres not enough of them. And you alienate existing fans.Personally I reject reimaginings generally across all media D&D specifically. Make quality product new and old will buy it. I used to like FR lore a lot but it's never recovered for from the 4E nuking of the Realms. BG3 however does blend old and new togather very well. The Shar and Sune thing is a major subplot and I fell in love with that type of lore back in 1996 with Faith's and Avatars. My love of mythology predates D&D going back to age 5 or with archeology and Roman Deities via Asterix and Obelix by Totatus. Illithids also are a major theme in BG3. Well that's also going through 2E Spelljammer, the Illithid book in 3E, 3.5 Book of Aberrations, and the 5E Volo books. New Gith lore freshest out the old Fiend Folo lore I was reading before I even played D&D. It's how I got into the game. I don't mind new stuff either eg Ravnica, Theros, Wildemont but I hate reimaginings. Golarion then Midgard replaced FR for me. 5E Eberron was new but respectful of the old same with BG3. I bought Theros, Ravnica, Eberron, and Wildemont (haven't played any of them them I like reading and collecting). Have not bought Dragonlance, Spelljammer or Strixgaven. Did get Ravenloft as it was basically free (did not like 2E Ravenloft). New one was more lackluster than bad. New Multiverse book also got essentially for free and kinda felt ripped off as it is essentially a book of errata. That was one of the last 5E books I bought. Declining quality and charging for errata is a pass for me. That story through the edition is what has kept me around. Its kot the mechanics tbh. Big flaws in 4E pushing its mechanics when I don’t really care that much for them when it comes to D&D. [/QUOTE]
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