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<blockquote data-quote="the Jester" data-source="post: 9262401" data-attributes="member: 1210">I'm not an expert on FR, but I'd argue- from what I heard- that the problem wasn't that there was new lore. There was new lore in 3e's treatment, but it was widely regarded as the best treatment that the Realms had seen. The problem was more that the changes were massive, wholesale, and fundamental. They didn't make a new version of the Realms that was in tune with the old version; they blew up the Realms (as innumerable people put it). They forced 4e's revisions into the Realms with no regard for what had gone before (again, so I have heard argued over and over again).Yeah, I don't agree. Again, I will point to the additions that 2e made to prior edition lore for monsters, and for most of the various campaign settings; and to a lot of the stuff added in 3e. The difference is when you discard old lore and pretend it wasn't there, or when you make massive changes that alter the tone, themes, and fundamentals of something. Changes that invalidate previous lore are not the only type of change that can be made, but they are the type of change that people are most likely to dislike. &quot;Here's a new cosmology, your old one never was and doesn't count, even if it came up in your game&quot; is a far cry from &quot;Here's more information and expansion about the cosmology&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="the Jester, post: 9262401, member: 1210"] I'm not an expert on FR, but I'd argue- from what I heard- that the problem wasn't that there was new lore. There was new lore in 3e's treatment, but it was widely regarded as the best treatment that the Realms had seen. The problem was more that the changes were massive, wholesale, and fundamental. They didn't make a new version of the Realms that was in tune with the old version; they [I]blew up the Realms [/I](as innumerable people put it). They forced 4e's revisions into the Realms with no regard for what had gone before (again, so I have heard argued over and over again). Yeah, I don't agree. Again, I will point to the additions that 2e made to prior edition lore for monsters, and for most of the various campaign settings; and to a lot of the stuff added in 3e. The difference is when you discard old lore and pretend it wasn't there, or when you make massive changes that alter the tone, themes, and fundamentals of something. Changes that invalidate previous lore are not the only type of change that can be made, but they are the type of change that people are most likely to dislike. "Here's a new cosmology, your old one never was and doesn't count, even if it came up in your game" is a far cry from "Here's more information and expansion about the cosmology". [/QUOTE]

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