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<blockquote data-quote="woodelf" data-source="post: 1815097" data-attributes="member: 10201"><p>Why not? If they're having more fun because they're off by a couple points, who cares? If a player goofs up her hitpoints, and it's an honest mistake (not cheating), i probably won't point it out. If someone says "oops--i should've missed last round, because i forgot about the -2 from being poisoned" i'll say "don't worry about it--just count it from here on out". </p><p> </p><p> Honestly, there's no way i'm gonna check all the stats. If the error isn't sufficiently glaring to jump out at me, i'm not gonna catch it. So, yeah, i'm ignorant of the errors. If i'm gonna have to double-check every stat, not only won't i be buying any commercial products (it's almost as much effort to check them as to invent them myself), but i sure as heck won't be playing something with the mechanical complexity of D20 System. My players like all the fiddly bits. Only way i can stand them is by having lots of shortcuts to keep me sane: things like statted monsters, and Everyone Else. 'Cause if i had to do all this on my own, i just wouldn't--i'd pull reasonable numbers out of the air, fudge all the die rolls, and make sure everyone was getting the right level of challenge to have fun.</p><p> </p><p> Oh, and in the playstyle i enjoy, there's no such thing as cheating, so there can't be anything tantamount to cheating.</p><p> </p><p> You don't. Get some Malhavoc stuff--great-to-awesome ideas, good-to-great editing. Or check out some Atlas--always great or awesome ideas, always good editing. Grab some of the Horizon line from FFG. Look at the Green Ronin stuff. I hear nothing but praise about the Iron Kingdoms stuff (Privateer Press?). There's plenty of quality D20 System stuff. It just doesn't come from WotC. (well, there's a list as long as my arm of companies that aren't producing quality D20 System stuff, but that's the one relevant to the thread.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="woodelf, post: 1815097, member: 10201"] Why not? If they're having more fun because they're off by a couple points, who cares? If a player goofs up her hitpoints, and it's an honest mistake (not cheating), i probably won't point it out. If someone says "oops--i should've missed last round, because i forgot about the -2 from being poisoned" i'll say "don't worry about it--just count it from here on out". Honestly, there's no way i'm gonna check all the stats. If the error isn't sufficiently glaring to jump out at me, i'm not gonna catch it. So, yeah, i'm ignorant of the errors. If i'm gonna have to double-check every stat, not only won't i be buying any commercial products (it's almost as much effort to check them as to invent them myself), but i sure as heck won't be playing something with the mechanical complexity of D20 System. My players like all the fiddly bits. Only way i can stand them is by having lots of shortcuts to keep me sane: things like statted monsters, and Everyone Else. 'Cause if i had to do all this on my own, i just wouldn't--i'd pull reasonable numbers out of the air, fudge all the die rolls, and make sure everyone was getting the right level of challenge to have fun. Oh, and in the playstyle i enjoy, there's no such thing as cheating, so there can't be anything tantamount to cheating. You don't. Get some Malhavoc stuff--great-to-awesome ideas, good-to-great editing. Or check out some Atlas--always great or awesome ideas, always good editing. Grab some of the Horizon line from FFG. Look at the Green Ronin stuff. I hear nothing but praise about the Iron Kingdoms stuff (Privateer Press?). There's plenty of quality D20 System stuff. It just doesn't come from WotC. (well, there's a list as long as my arm of companies that aren't producing quality D20 System stuff, but that's the one relevant to the thread.) [/QUOTE]
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