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<blockquote data-quote="Joachim" data-source="post: 2714186" data-attributes="member: 9531">Wait until higher levels when you get hit with that Disjunction.&nbsp; Nada you can do as Ring of Counterspelling can only store up to 6th level. But, I get your point.&nbsp; Still, there are quite a few outsiders (demodands come immediately to mind) that can cast Dispel Magic at will as an SLA.I just think that there is so much claptrap about that one tactic for clerics and how 'broken' it is.&nbsp; You need to dedicate 4-5 feats (Extend Spell, Persistent Spell, Divine Meta [Persistent Spell], and Extra Turning maybe twice depending on CHA), and that will get you the ability to use the feat ONCE.&nbsp; Then you need to dedicate substantial monetary resources (8k gp a pop for Rings of Counterspelling at 8th-12th level can be steep, depending on the number you want) for the protection of this ability or 12k a pop for at least two Nightsticks so that you can use it a second time.&nbsp; And after all that is done guess what:&nbsp; You can beat things down almost as good as a fighter (who has spent his money on nice magical weapons, has higher HD, and booku combat feats to boot) and you can heal yourself.&nbsp; Wow.&nbsp; Too much bloody trouble.Sorry about the rant.&nbsp; I realize that the original question had nothing to do with this, but I have read waaaaaayyy too many threads regarding clerics where the ultimate answer is &quot;You should go the Divine Meta route&quot; or &quot;The Divine Meta [Persistent] cleric is teh BORKEN!!&quot; (mispelling and bad english intended).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Joachim, post: 2714186, member: 9531"] Wait until higher levels when you get hit with that Disjunction. Nada you can do as Ring of Counterspelling can only store up to 6th level. But, I get your point. Still, there are quite a few outsiders (demodands come immediately to mind) that can cast Dispel Magic at will as an SLA. I just think that there is so much claptrap about that one tactic for clerics and how 'broken' it is. You need to dedicate 4-5 feats (Extend Spell, Persistent Spell, Divine Meta [Persistent Spell], and Extra Turning maybe twice depending on CHA), and that will get you the ability to use the feat ONCE. Then you need to dedicate substantial monetary resources (8k gp a pop for Rings of Counterspelling at 8th-12th level can be steep, depending on the number you want) for the protection of this ability or 12k a pop for at least two Nightsticks so that you can use it a second time. And after all that is done guess what: You can beat things down [I][B]almost[/B][/I] as good as a fighter (who has spent his money on nice magical weapons, has higher HD, and booku combat feats to boot) and you can heal yourself. Wow. Too much bloody trouble. Sorry about the rant. I realize that the original question had nothing to do with this, but I have read waaaaaayyy too many threads regarding clerics where the ultimate answer is "You should go the Divine Meta route" or "The Divine Meta [Persistent] cleric is teh BORKEN!!" (mispelling and bad english intended). [/QUOTE]

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