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<blockquote data-quote="Schmoe" data-source="post: 3312110" data-attributes="member: 913">Sure, but that doesn't mean I have to root for you.&nbsp; Who do I want ruling the world, Hannibal Lector, or Darth Vader?&nbsp; Hmm, turns out I don't really want either one winning the battle.On this we disagree.&nbsp; An evil person is just trying to get ahead.&nbsp; If that means he needs to save the world in order to have it for himself, so be it.&nbsp; That doesn't make him a hero.&nbsp; If Demogorgon had to first destroy Kyuss before having the Forgotten Realms to himself, and of course some innocents would probably die while Kyuss was being hunted down, would you call Demogorgon a Hero?&nbsp; I wouldn't.Again, depending on how &quot;dark&quot; the character is, I probably wouldn't call that person a hero.&nbsp; There's also a big difference between characters who have a dark history, and those who still embrace villainy.&nbsp; It is much more common for a movie or story to feature the former rather than the latter.&nbsp; The reason being, an audience can root for a character who can redeem his past, willingly or not, but they are unlikely to root for a character who refuses to be redeemed.And here we agree.&nbsp; There's that whole &quot;laws of society&quot; thing at work, which is important.The bottom line is this:I'm sure that you guys are having a blast playing this game.&nbsp; JollyDoc runs a tight game from what I can tell, and I imagine it's very interesting role-playing characters with a different perspective than yourself.&nbsp; The story hour is also still fun to read, because of the amazing events that transpire.&nbsp; But the PCs in the campaign, right now, are thoroughly evil and wicked.&nbsp; The story does not have any heroes, and hence I don't find it as enjoyable or engaging.&nbsp; No matter how you may try, you cannot convince me that Anwar, Thrisp, and Basil are heroes - they are simply villains with a different agenda.[Edit] I just re-read what I posted, and I want to make sure that you don't think I'm criticizing your game.&nbsp; I only wanted to explain my perspective.&nbsp; Game on!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Schmoe, post: 3312110, member: 913"] Sure, but that doesn't mean I have to root for you. Who do I want ruling the world, Hannibal Lector, or Darth Vader? Hmm, turns out I don't really want either one winning the battle. On this we disagree. An evil person is just trying to get ahead. If that means he needs to save the world in order to have it for himself, so be it. That doesn't make him a hero. If Demogorgon had to first destroy Kyuss before having the Forgotten Realms to himself, and of course some innocents would probably die while Kyuss was being hunted down, would you call Demogorgon a Hero? I wouldn't. Again, depending on how "dark" the character is, I probably wouldn't call that person a hero. There's also a big difference between characters who have a dark history, and those who still embrace villainy. It is much more common for a movie or story to feature the former rather than the latter. The reason being, an audience can root for a character who can redeem his past, willingly or not, but they are unlikely to root for a character who refuses to be redeemed. And here we agree. There's that whole "laws of society" thing at work, which is important. The bottom line is this: I'm sure that you guys are having a blast playing this game. JollyDoc runs a tight game from what I can tell, and I imagine it's very interesting role-playing characters with a different perspective than yourself. The story hour is also still fun to read, because of the amazing events that transpire. But the PCs in the campaign, right now, are thoroughly evil and wicked. The story does not have any heroes, and hence I don't find it as enjoyable or engaging. No matter how you may try, you cannot convince me that Anwar, Thrisp, and Basil are heroes - they are simply villains with a different agenda. [Edit] I just re-read what I posted, and I want to make sure that you don't think I'm criticizing your game. I only wanted to explain my perspective. Game on! [/QUOTE]

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