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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 8200309" data-attributes="member: 16814">Said no one.Said no one.Yes, if you don't like it, the claim isn't of much value to you, but that doesn't render the claim invalid.&nbsp; And, I fully agree, finding a game you enjoy is the entire point -- but honest, clear enunciation of how systems work and how they differ is a tool to do this, not a mandate directing your choice.I was very specific in my point about Blades in the Dark.&nbsp; Other systems do Leverage well, too.&nbsp; D&amp;D doesn't.&nbsp; It's not well equipped for that kind of emulation, and that's fine&nbsp; It's strengths lie in other places.&nbsp; However, reflexive defensiveness over the claim that BitD does Leverage style games better than D&amp;D, up to and including the argument that you don't like it for other reasons or that there's any claim that you should or must play it, is ridiculous.&nbsp; No one's claiming this.&nbsp; I certainly don't -- I'm running 5e right now, so clearly I don't have any problems with it.&nbsp; I'm even running an AP&nbsp; -- Descent into Avernus -- which is terribly put together in places but we're having fun and that's the part that matters.&nbsp; See, I can even say that the AP sucks (and man does it in places), but that it's still fun and I play it!&nbsp; Drop the need to defend D&amp;D -- trust me, it'll do fine without it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 8200309, member: 16814"] Said no one. Said no one. Yes, if you don't like it, the claim isn't of much value to you, but that doesn't render the claim invalid. And, I fully agree, finding a game you enjoy is the entire point -- but honest, clear enunciation of how systems work and how they differ is a tool to do this, not a mandate directing your choice. I was very specific in my point about Blades in the Dark. Other systems do Leverage well, too. D&D doesn't. It's not well equipped for that kind of emulation, and [B]that's fine[/B] It's strengths lie in other places. However, reflexive defensiveness over the claim that BitD does Leverage style games better than D&D, up to and including the argument that you don't like it for other reasons or that there's any claim that you should or must play it, is ridiculous. No one's claiming this. I certainly don't -- I'm running 5e right now, so clearly I don't have any problems with it. I'm even running an AP -- Descent into Avernus -- which is terribly put together in places but we're having fun and that's the part that matters. See, I can even say that the AP sucks (and man does it in places), but that it's still fun and I play it! Drop the need to defend D&D -- trust me, it'll do fine without it. [/QUOTE]

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