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<blockquote data-quote="Twowolves" data-source="post: 3832913" data-attributes="member: 18093">So, your arguement against the crafting rules now suddenly only applies to low level item makers. Moving the goalposts are we? You implied that clerics don't have to spend xp to heal, and they do. And I have the benefit of actually DMing for a group in which every caster has at least 1 type of item crafting feat. Now, does my experience trump yours, or will you drop this whole &quot;you don't know what you are talking about, I have EXPERIENCE&quot; line of non-arguement?Where did I say that it was the best possible? Where is that even implied? I'm sorry, I didn't realize this thread was posted in the 4th ed forum. I thought we were talking about the game that is actually published and is currently being played by millions, not the theoretical rules of a game yet published, where everyone's house rules are official cannon, and everyone's dreams of The Perfect System comes true. Except for those of us not buying the party line that we are now at war with Oceania and always have been, and are able to see that the current edition of the rules don't suck quite so bad as the 4th ed developers would like us to believe.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Twowolves, post: 3832913, member: 18093"] So, your arguement against the crafting rules now suddenly only applies to low level item makers. Moving the goalposts are we? You implied that clerics don't have to spend xp to heal, and they do. And I have the benefit of actually DMing for a group in which every caster has at least 1 type of item crafting feat. Now, does my experience trump yours, or will you drop this whole "you don't know what you are talking about, I have EXPERIENCE" line of non-arguement? Where did I say that it was the best possible? Where is that even implied? I'm sorry, I didn't realize this thread was posted in the 4th ed forum. I thought we were talking about the game that is actually published and is currently being played by millions, not the theoretical rules of a game yet published, where everyone's house rules are official cannon, and everyone's dreams of The Perfect System comes true. Except for those of us not buying the party line that we are now at war with Oceania and always have been, and are able to see that the current edition of the rules don't suck quite so bad as the 4th ed developers would like us to believe. [/QUOTE]

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