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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Whizbang Dustyboots" data-source="post: 3832948" data-attributes="member: 11760">When everyone is arguing that the rules are fine, because characters in the double-digits have no problems with them, it's worth pointing out that most play takes place at lower levels.Any rule can be shown to be fine if we define the circumstance that it's OK in sufficiently narrowly. But the rules don't just apply to left-handed red-headed feytouched archivists in Ravenloft. They apply all the time.It's a crappy rule in part because it doesn't scale well at all.I don't know, where you bit my head off for not liking the rule?The magic item creation rules have always sucked. Hence all the alternatives out there, including from WotC, long before 4E was announced.</blockquote>