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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 3896652" data-attributes="member: 114">Gosh, even without power attack in the picture, our spellcasters struggle to keep up in the damage stakes with the fighters, who with massive strength, big weapons, critical hits and full attacks *completely* rule the roost in damage stakes.Ooh, the wizard drops a fireball - 10d6, so that's 35 damage, half on a save, and take off the fire resistance. 7 damage gets through. Versus the fighter full attack, hit! 2d6+12 damage! Critical 4d6+24! (55 damage) cleave onto next guy! 2d6+12! etc etc. BTW, I'm understating the damage here, as I'm assuming 22 Str, weapon specialisation and +1 weapon; in reality it is likely to be more strength and better weapon magic)The only time that a caster beat them in the damage stakes was a druid with the (overpowered?) incense of meditation, which maximises all his spells prepared that day - doing 60 with every flamestrike and 50 with every Call Lightning Storm bolt was a pretty tough act to follow (and no arcane caster could have managed it, at least not with core rules).Cheers</blockquote>