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Jubilex weaker than a Balor?
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<blockquote data-quote="Fishbone" data-source="post: 2863174" data-attributes="member: 40849"><p>Wait a sec...</p><p>This is only a CR 19, lets see what happens when you throw a level of Fighter on and give it Improved Natural Attack and oh, I don't know, Ability Focus(Dissolve)...</p><p>WOAH. </p><p>123 more hits points than the Balor with better Damage Reduction.</p><p>It isn't subject to a lot of the balor's attacks because of its Ooze Traits ability. For instance, no Power Word Stun or Insanity, no Dominate Monster.</p><p>Implosion is a total waste as Fighter 1 Jubilex would have to roll a 1 to die. </p><p>Firestorm is okay but Jubilex ignores the first 30 points of damage from it.</p><p>So these spells are not all that great to worthless.</p><p>Flaming Body? Won't do any damage. </p><p>The whip would have to make a DC 36 Reflex save(17 for the Balor) or dissolve so I'd rule that Jubilex wouldn't be entangled because there would be <em>nothing for him to be entangled by!</em> Even so, that Strength check is a coin flip.</p><p>AC 32 is pretty high, only the first 3 longsword attacks will hit on average. If the Balor were to roll maximum damage it would go down to 0 because of the Balor's damage reduction. It would take 20 confirmed criticals after a maximum Firestorm to kill Jubilex.The first attack is subject to a DC 36 save or it is dissolved. The whip won't do any damage, either, and is likely to be Dissolved. The damage a hit Jubilex does is only going to about 4 or 5 a hit after damage reduction so the Balor is sitting pretty, too. Since both can teleport it will be pretty hard for either to do significant amounts of damage to one another. Power Attacking is definately an option for the Balor. It could sac 8-9 points of attack for 18 points of damage. This means that the Balor could miss on anything 10 or below and it still means that the longsword will have to hit and then make a very high Dissolve check.</p><p>The only way I see the Balor winning is with a very lucky Implosion(a 20-1 shot) or a max damage rolled, confirmed critical power attack with at least a 15 sacrificed for death by massive damage. That is really, really unlikely, too, on the order of say, 100-1 because that means...</p><p>Two 6s rolled.</p><p>At least a 19 rolled.</p><p>Another 16 or better rolled to confirm.</p><p>A Critical Failure by Jubilex.</p><p>Bottom line is, if the Balor fights he is gonna lose weapons worth nearly 80,000 GP.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fishbone, post: 2863174, member: 40849"] Wait a sec... This is only a CR 19, lets see what happens when you throw a level of Fighter on and give it Improved Natural Attack and oh, I don't know, Ability Focus(Dissolve)... WOAH. 123 more hits points than the Balor with better Damage Reduction. It isn't subject to a lot of the balor's attacks because of its Ooze Traits ability. For instance, no Power Word Stun or Insanity, no Dominate Monster. Implosion is a total waste as Fighter 1 Jubilex would have to roll a 1 to die. Firestorm is okay but Jubilex ignores the first 30 points of damage from it. So these spells are not all that great to worthless. Flaming Body? Won't do any damage. The whip would have to make a DC 36 Reflex save(17 for the Balor) or dissolve so I'd rule that Jubilex wouldn't be entangled because there would be [I]nothing for him to be entangled by![/I] Even so, that Strength check is a coin flip. AC 32 is pretty high, only the first 3 longsword attacks will hit on average. If the Balor were to roll maximum damage it would go down to 0 because of the Balor's damage reduction. It would take 20 confirmed criticals after a maximum Firestorm to kill Jubilex.The first attack is subject to a DC 36 save or it is dissolved. The whip won't do any damage, either, and is likely to be Dissolved. The damage a hit Jubilex does is only going to about 4 or 5 a hit after damage reduction so the Balor is sitting pretty, too. Since both can teleport it will be pretty hard for either to do significant amounts of damage to one another. Power Attacking is definately an option for the Balor. It could sac 8-9 points of attack for 18 points of damage. This means that the Balor could miss on anything 10 or below and it still means that the longsword will have to hit and then make a very high Dissolve check. The only way I see the Balor winning is with a very lucky Implosion(a 20-1 shot) or a max damage rolled, confirmed critical power attack with at least a 15 sacrificed for death by massive damage. That is really, really unlikely, too, on the order of say, 100-1 because that means... Two 6s rolled. At least a 19 rolled. Another 16 or better rolled to confirm. A Critical Failure by Jubilex. Bottom line is, if the Balor fights he is gonna lose weapons worth nearly 80,000 GP. [/QUOTE]
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