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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 7059671" data-attributes="member: 29398"><p>After which Gygax has 12 newly-freed deities running loose in his game world, with which he can have a field day!</p><p></p><p>We don't know that. How/why are those deities in prison in the first place? What did they do before they got there (and what are they going to do next)? How do we know that is wasn't in fact on Gygax's storyboard that at some point they'd be freed? And regardless, an action that significant will become a cog in the wheel of the game-world's unfolding history whether EGG wanted it to or not.</p><p></p><p>And how do we know that some element in the game world isn't just going to go out and round 'em all up again?</p><p></p><p>Neither this nor the tone/intent/results of those previous interactions was mentioned. The way it read seemed like these were all first-time meetings.</p><p></p><p>In a relatively isolated example like this it's difficult to impossible to tell if there's in fact a secret backstory (or many such) present or not. There's certainly loads of opportunities for it. Were it me I'd have given at least vague thought to the various agendae of all those groups the party met, and likely not all of them would have been made the least bit obvious once play began.</p><p></p><p>What boggles my mind here is that simple speech (as opposed to spellcasting etc.) ever requires a mechanical action of any kind at all.</p><p></p><p>What boggles my mind slightly less - but there's still bogglin' going on - is that the mechanics allow a failed roll to retroactively be turned into a success like this. In my eyes once a die hits the table, that's it - it's locked in and no further changes can be made.</p><p></p><p>Lan-"two, two, two boggles at once"-efan</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 7059671, member: 29398"] After which Gygax has 12 newly-freed deities running loose in his game world, with which he can have a field day! We don't know that. How/why are those deities in prison in the first place? What did they do before they got there (and what are they going to do next)? How do we know that is wasn't in fact on Gygax's storyboard that at some point they'd be freed? And regardless, an action that significant will become a cog in the wheel of the game-world's unfolding history whether EGG wanted it to or not. And how do we know that some element in the game world isn't just going to go out and round 'em all up again? Neither this nor the tone/intent/results of those previous interactions was mentioned. The way it read seemed like these were all first-time meetings. In a relatively isolated example like this it's difficult to impossible to tell if there's in fact a secret backstory (or many such) present or not. There's certainly loads of opportunities for it. Were it me I'd have given at least vague thought to the various agendae of all those groups the party met, and likely not all of them would have been made the least bit obvious once play began. What boggles my mind here is that simple speech (as opposed to spellcasting etc.) ever requires a mechanical action of any kind at all. What boggles my mind slightly less - but there's still bogglin' going on - is that the mechanics allow a failed roll to retroactively be turned into a success like this. In my eyes once a die hits the table, that's it - it's locked in and no further changes can be made. Lan-"two, two, two boggles at once"-efan [/QUOTE]
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