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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 7075638" data-attributes="member: 6785785">Sure. But just because player choice and consequence there of is your primary reason for framing things the way you do does not make the process free of GM Force. You can certainly come up with options that meet the primary need but that also steer the story in a way you prefer.Honestly, the descriptions you guys are sharing of the systems you are citing don't really sound like my cup of tea at all. I actually enjoy the role of the DM in 5E, as flawed a system as it may be. I don't think that the role as described requires that the game be a railroad, nor do I think that the Powered by the Apocalypse system and other similar game systems are entirely free from GM fiat. I can agree that the mechanics attempt to minimize such concerns...however, I don't really agree that the concern should be that strong at all. I can imagine a game where the GM uses techniques to force his vision of the game upon the group. Where player choice is undermined or subverted by the GM's whim. If I had suffered through a game like that...or if as GM I found the job daunting or to be too much work...then I could see the appeal of such a system. But in my experience, those are not areas of concern that need to be addressed.</blockquote>