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<blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 7081982" data-attributes="member: 6785785"><p>As someone whose game leans toward GM Driven....if I had to pick one of the two very broad buckets of "GM Driven" or "Player Driven"....there are certainly drawbacks. </p><p></p><p>It's easy for there to be conflict between what the players want and what the GM has planned, so you can have mixed expectations for the game.</p><p></p><p>It's possible to overlook, or even not to be aware of, players' goals for their characters and the fiction of the game overall. </p><p></p><p>I think "railroading" is probably more of a possibility (although I am coming to hate that term due to its vagueness and widely differing application). </p><p></p><p>All of these ultimately kind of have the same effect....some form of reduction in player agency, whether it is somehow taken away, subverted, or totally missing to begin with. That chance seem, to me, to be the major concern of those posters who seem to be critical of that style (although I admit, I could be way off on that, but that's the gist I get). And to touch on [MENTION=48965]Imaro[/MENTION]'s earlier point....I think most of us would agree that player agency in and of itself is a good thing. But I don't know if it must be paramount....that the preservation of player agency must be preserved at all costs. So even though we see it as a good thing, there certainly could be plenty of valid reasons to eschew it from time to time. </p><p></p><p>I'm sure there are more concerns about GM Driven games...I just threw out a few. Others can add to that. I'm hoping that some of the more Player-Driven-Minded folks will be willing to share their views on the drawbacks of that approach; I have my own ideas, but I'd like to hear what they have to say first.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hawkeyefan, post: 7081982, member: 6785785"] As someone whose game leans toward GM Driven....if I had to pick one of the two very broad buckets of "GM Driven" or "Player Driven"....there are certainly drawbacks. It's easy for there to be conflict between what the players want and what the GM has planned, so you can have mixed expectations for the game. It's possible to overlook, or even not to be aware of, players' goals for their characters and the fiction of the game overall. I think "railroading" is probably more of a possibility (although I am coming to hate that term due to its vagueness and widely differing application). All of these ultimately kind of have the same effect....some form of reduction in player agency, whether it is somehow taken away, subverted, or totally missing to begin with. That chance seem, to me, to be the major concern of those posters who seem to be critical of that style (although I admit, I could be way off on that, but that's the gist I get). And to touch on [MENTION=48965]Imaro[/MENTION]'s earlier point....I think most of us would agree that player agency in and of itself is a good thing. But I don't know if it must be paramount....that the preservation of player agency must be preserved at all costs. So even though we see it as a good thing, there certainly could be plenty of valid reasons to eschew it from time to time. I'm sure there are more concerns about GM Driven games...I just threw out a few. Others can add to that. I'm hoping that some of the more Player-Driven-Minded folks will be willing to share their views on the drawbacks of that approach; I have my own ideas, but I'd like to hear what they have to say first. [/QUOTE]
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