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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7082231" data-attributes="member: 996">So, 1e, then <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> ...I ran a much-modified (a 2-3 inch thick d-ring binder of crazy variants) version of 1e for years, and 2e similarly-modded. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> I have a hard time believing anyone ever ran 1e 'RAW.'  But, y'know, 1e was a very DM-empowering edition, as is 5e. Well, it does confound you, and you are still running a game from the 80s...but, yeah, 'advanced' it's a misnomer:  I doubt there was much in a 'modern' WotC ed of D&D that hadn't been done by some not-D&D RPG by oh, the mid '90s at the latest.  'Less classic,' perhaps? ...?  An advance can hardly seem like a regression.  By definition the latter is calling back something from the past.  An advance can seem bad or in the wrong direction based on subjective opinion, sure, and a regression can seem like a terribly good idea when people are burning you in effigy for moving away from tradition...  Nod.  The 3.x Diplomancer was notorious, that way.  But, really, if an RPG is going to let you play a range of characters, not just clones of yourself dropped in some genre setting (not that 20th century reader-identification characters dropped into fantasy worlds wasn't a staple of genre for a long time), it's going to have to have resolution mechanics based on the character, not just the player.   Above I posited a continuum, so I guess I agree.  But, indie does kinda come off as the intellectual revolutionary minority struggling against the dogmatic/oppressive establishment, ironic as that is in such a small pond.  And both sides can be more than a little elitist - both sides of a hobby that tends towards elitism, I might add (one way to look at the continued unpopularity of your obsession is as an exclusive elite rather than an excluded fringe).</blockquote>

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