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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 7082992" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>This is like saying, "The orc was reduced to zero hp, but it seems quite reasonable, viable and fun for it in fact just to be a flesh wound, so the orc gets up and keeps on fighting" I mean, maybe some people would find that fun, and maybe in some RPG systems that is reasonable and viable, but as I prefer to play that would clearly be a violation of finality in resolution.</p><p></p><p>And to reiterate a point I made upthread (I think to [MENTION=6802765]Xetheral[/MENTION]): it is no answer to this to say that the orc can't get up because, in the fiction, it is unconscious or dead. Because the only way we know that fiction is via the mechanical state of zero hp; and we can only infer to the fiction if that mecahnical state ensures finality.</p><p></p><p>In the skill challenge, the players' success establishes that the advisor reveals himself in a way that redounds upon him and does not hurt the PCs' relationship with the baron. That's what they were angling for, and that's what they got. The matter is settled.</p><p></p><p>As I said, in the fiction the advisor can snivel and weasel - as Wormtongue does once Gandalf unmasks him - but that is not going to change the situation. As GM, I don't get a "do over". The established result stands.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 7082992, member: 42582"] This is like saying, "The orc was reduced to zero hp, but it seems quite reasonable, viable and fun for it in fact just to be a flesh wound, so the orc gets up and keeps on fighting" I mean, maybe some people would find that fun, and maybe in some RPG systems that is reasonable and viable, but as I prefer to play that would clearly be a violation of finality in resolution. And to reiterate a point I made upthread (I think to [MENTION=6802765]Xetheral[/MENTION]): it is no answer to this to say that the orc can't get up because, in the fiction, it is unconscious or dead. Because the only way we know that fiction is via the mechanical state of zero hp; and we can only infer to the fiction if that mecahnical state ensures finality. In the skill challenge, the players' success establishes that the advisor reveals himself in a way that redounds upon him and does not hurt the PCs' relationship with the baron. That's what they were angling for, and that's what they got. The matter is settled. As I said, in the fiction the advisor can snivel and weasel - as Wormtongue does once Gandalf unmasks him - but that is not going to change the situation. As GM, I don't get a "do over". The established result stands. [/QUOTE]
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