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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 7086390" data-attributes="member: 48965">We are I was just making the point as I did earlier with [MENTION=42582]pemerton[/MENTION]'s post that SC's aren't the only way to mechanically resolve something in 4e.I don't think individual skill use or the use of powers necessitates us moving into a combat encounter and of course it's another framework since it's not a SC which I agre is a very specific framework.But if that's not what the power actually does the DM isn't in fact leveraging the abilities of the character... and furthermore the issue is that your typical SC's DC's are based on character level and have little if anything to do with the actual opposition they are facing.Yes but in a totally different way than the PC's do.  In other words as I said earlier the same mechanics are not being leveraged in the same way for NPC's as they are for PC's in SC's.  An NPC never makes a single roll in SC's... the DC's of a SC aren't typically based on the NPC's abilities or scores, but instead are typically based on level of the characters with wriggle room for the DM to adjust it up or down... complexity is set based on how many successes the DM wants the PC's to have to garner but again is not tied to the NPC in any way and advantages are based on the complexity of the SC and stopping the math from resulting in an auto-failure... but again not on any abilties or qualities of the NPC.</blockquote>