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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 7086969" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>I don't understand your (a).</p><p></p><p>In my main 4e game, the paladin of the Raven Queen had, as his two preeminent goals, (i) to stop Torog using his Soul Abattoir to trap the souls of those who die in the Underdark and use them as a source of mystical power, and (ii) to destroy Orcus. A third motivation for the character, not so much a goal as an ethos, is the value of ordinary lives, of those whose time has not yet come to die.</p><p></p><p>Hence, <em>framing scenes according to dramatic need</em> meant putting (i) or (ii) into play, or allowing the third motivation to express itself (eg by the sparing of lives where they might be spared). That is not about introspection or "emo-gaming". That is about the PC defeating undead, hunting down Orcus cultists, using the magical tapestry to create the map to the Soul Abattoir, destroying it with the help of his fellows, and then launching an assault on Orcus's castle in Thanatos.</p><p></p><p>Hence why I don't understand your (a).</p><p></p><p>To some extent your (b) seems to take your (a) as a premise. But treating it as an independent thing: In the course of escaping from the Abyss, this PC developed a new motivation, when he (and the rest of the PCs) learned that the Raven Queen's (mortal) mausoleum had (like all lost and/or ruined things) made its way to The Barrens, the 100th layer of the Abyss; an so with his fellows he went off to prevent anyone using her mausoleum to learn her true name and hence gain power over her.</p><p></p><p>The story of this PC will "naturally reach its end" when either (i) the Raven Queen is toppled, (ii) the Raven Queen becomes supreme ruler of the cosmos, or (iii) the Raven Queen is somehow accommodated within, and reconciled to, a new cosmological settlement. The player of this PC is angling for (ii). The player of the dwarf inclines rather strongly to (i). Two of the other PCs incline towards (iii). The invoker/wizard does not seem to have an overt commitment, but his actions in restoring the Rod of Seven Parts - at the behest, ultimately, of the Raven Queen - seem most likely to facilitate (ii).</p><p></p><p>As the previous paragraph at least hints at, the stories of these PCs are intertwined. That's not a coincidence - it's part of my job as GM to try and bring that about and sustain it over the course of play.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: Since posting this I see that I was ninja-ed by [MENTION=1282]darkbard[/MENTION]!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 7086969, member: 42582"] I don't understand your (a). In my main 4e game, the paladin of the Raven Queen had, as his two preeminent goals, (i) to stop Torog using his Soul Abattoir to trap the souls of those who die in the Underdark and use them as a source of mystical power, and (ii) to destroy Orcus. A third motivation for the character, not so much a goal as an ethos, is the value of ordinary lives, of those whose time has not yet come to die. Hence, [I]framing scenes according to dramatic need[/I] meant putting (i) or (ii) into play, or allowing the third motivation to express itself (eg by the sparing of lives where they might be spared). That is not about introspection or "emo-gaming". That is about the PC defeating undead, hunting down Orcus cultists, using the magical tapestry to create the map to the Soul Abattoir, destroying it with the help of his fellows, and then launching an assault on Orcus's castle in Thanatos. Hence why I don't understand your (a). To some extent your (b) seems to take your (a) as a premise. But treating it as an independent thing: In the course of escaping from the Abyss, this PC developed a new motivation, when he (and the rest of the PCs) learned that the Raven Queen's (mortal) mausoleum had (like all lost and/or ruined things) made its way to The Barrens, the 100th layer of the Abyss; an so with his fellows he went off to prevent anyone using her mausoleum to learn her true name and hence gain power over her. The story of this PC will "naturally reach its end" when either (i) the Raven Queen is toppled, (ii) the Raven Queen becomes supreme ruler of the cosmos, or (iii) the Raven Queen is somehow accommodated within, and reconciled to, a new cosmological settlement. The player of this PC is angling for (ii). The player of the dwarf inclines rather strongly to (i). Two of the other PCs incline towards (iii). The invoker/wizard does not seem to have an overt commitment, but his actions in restoring the Rod of Seven Parts - at the behest, ultimately, of the Raven Queen - seem most likely to facilitate (ii). As the previous paragraph at least hints at, the stories of these PCs are intertwined. That's not a coincidence - it's part of my job as GM to try and bring that about and sustain it over the course of play. EDIT: Since posting this I see that I was ninja-ed by [MENTION=1282]darkbard[/MENTION]! [/QUOTE]
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