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<blockquote data-quote="Campbell" data-source="post: 7087030" data-attributes="member: 16586"><p>My primary contention would be the notion of merely having regard for the established fiction. That does not dno it justice! In the sort of gaming I have been talking about our relationship with the fiction is much stronger than that. We have a great curiosity about the fiction. We actively follow it as the primary interest of play! We chase after it like a dog to a bone. We do our level best to make sure it is interesting, but we do not really drive it. Instead we let it drive us into experiences we would otherwise not have and try not to put designs on it.</p><p></p><p>Our own interests as players are also somewhat secondary to the interests of the fiction and the game as enumerated in the principles. Instead it is our curiosity about the fiction which drives us. We welcome the decidedly unwelcome into our game and believe we are better for it - that more fun is had that way. The value of the system is to make the fiction more interesting than it would be if we were left to our own devices.</p><p></p><p>Finally, I think there is some room for fiction unknown to players to impact resolution. I do not like characterizing some fiction as backstory and other fiction as fiction. It's all fiction to me regardless of when it happened. However, it must be <strong>meaningfully knowable</strong> through skilled play of the fiction and mechanisms provided before it impacts resolution. We must say what honesty demands and not manipulate things to our own ends. It is alright for the fact that The Baron is possessed by a demon to mean that punching him in the face is a bad idea. However, a player must have the opportunity to find out that is a bad idea before they declare their character punches him in the face!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Campbell, post: 7087030, member: 16586"] My primary contention would be the notion of merely having regard for the established fiction. That does not dno it justice! In the sort of gaming I have been talking about our relationship with the fiction is much stronger than that. We have a great curiosity about the fiction. We actively follow it as the primary interest of play! We chase after it like a dog to a bone. We do our level best to make sure it is interesting, but we do not really drive it. Instead we let it drive us into experiences we would otherwise not have and try not to put designs on it. Our own interests as players are also somewhat secondary to the interests of the fiction and the game as enumerated in the principles. Instead it is our curiosity about the fiction which drives us. We welcome the decidedly unwelcome into our game and believe we are better for it - that more fun is had that way. The value of the system is to make the fiction more interesting than it would be if we were left to our own devices. Finally, I think there is some room for fiction unknown to players to impact resolution. I do not like characterizing some fiction as backstory and other fiction as fiction. It's all fiction to me regardless of when it happened. However, it must be [B]meaningfully knowable[/B] through skilled play of the fiction and mechanisms provided before it impacts resolution. We must say what honesty demands and not manipulate things to our own ends. It is alright for the fact that The Baron is possessed by a demon to mean that punching him in the face is a bad idea. However, a player must have the opportunity to find out that is a bad idea before they declare their character punches him in the face! [/QUOTE]
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