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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Campbell" data-source="post: 7089758" data-attributes="member: 16586">I think there's a level of projection going on when most people who only play mainstream games analyze the appeal of indie games. They see these finely honed games that are crafted to deliver a specific experience or deal with a specific sort of fiction and assume exacting standards and lack of flexibility on the part of players, a search for the perfect game. That is almost the opposite of what I personally am after.The reason why I value games that have focus and clarity is not because I want one specific experience. I want many specific experiences that allow me to have fun in different ways. I am not looking to play poker and only poker for the rest of my life. Instead I want to play poker, spades, euchre, and bridge. I just would like to know what game I am playing when I am playing it so I can play it fully and authentically. I want to play hard. I also want to play it with other people who want to play that particular game with me so I can play off of them.Like I said up thread it is all about expectations and permissions. When everything is permitted nothing can be meaningfully expected. With no meaningful expectations in place it is supremely difficult to develop skill in playing the game and to effectively collaborate creatively.</blockquote>