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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 7098204" data-attributes="member: 29398"><p>Whereas I as player harbour no preconceived expectations at all as to how my contributions to the fiction and entertainment will be received - though my ego would obviously like it to be well-received I've no right to automatically expect such, and nor should I. </p><p></p><p>I say what I say and I do what I do and - <strong>just like in real life!</strong> - it's completely up to the listeners to determine what they think of it and-or how (or if) they're going to react to it and-or interact with it. They're free to run with it, build on it, or support it and are equally as free to ignore it, be bored by it, or negate it.</p><p></p><p>It's their call.</p><p></p><p>By the same token, though, it's my call as to what I do with the fiction presented to me by the DM and-or other players.</p><p></p><p>As DM I have a right to somewhat more expectation that they're at least going to pay attention, but that's as far as it goes.</p><p></p><p>The DM has to take your actions into account. The other players have to account for them but don't by any means have to agree with or support or build on them if they (in character) don't want to.</p><p></p><p>And if I'm the target I have the right to completely ignore said Bard (or pretend to, I'm still eating that d4 damage), or laugh at said Bard, or loudly tell said Bard to sod off, or attack said Bard (at disadvantage, grumble), or simply turn and walk away with my head held high.</p><p></p><p>The shared fiction is the sum of its parts, which are the individual fictions plus the overall fiction as a whole e.g. metaplot and adventure logs. It sometimes can't even be fully seen until viewed in hindsight.</p><p></p><p>The individual fictions cannot remain independent when they impact another character (e.g. your Bard Vicious-Wording my Fighter just got your fiction all up in my fiction) or the overall game (my Fighter just took down that orc which means it's dead to you too). But when my Fighter spins a grandly entertaining tale of derring-do in the highlands your Bard is still free to tell me exactly what I'm full of and then say "no, this is how it really went"...or just walk out.</p><p></p><p>Here I agree; we don't need mechanics for everything.</p><p></p><p>Lanefan</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 7098204, member: 29398"] Whereas I as player harbour no preconceived expectations at all as to how my contributions to the fiction and entertainment will be received - though my ego would obviously like it to be well-received I've no right to automatically expect such, and nor should I. I say what I say and I do what I do and - [B]just like in real life![/B] - it's completely up to the listeners to determine what they think of it and-or how (or if) they're going to react to it and-or interact with it. They're free to run with it, build on it, or support it and are equally as free to ignore it, be bored by it, or negate it. It's their call. By the same token, though, it's my call as to what I do with the fiction presented to me by the DM and-or other players. As DM I have a right to somewhat more expectation that they're at least going to pay attention, but that's as far as it goes. The DM has to take your actions into account. The other players have to account for them but don't by any means have to agree with or support or build on them if they (in character) don't want to. And if I'm the target I have the right to completely ignore said Bard (or pretend to, I'm still eating that d4 damage), or laugh at said Bard, or loudly tell said Bard to sod off, or attack said Bard (at disadvantage, grumble), or simply turn and walk away with my head held high. The shared fiction is the sum of its parts, which are the individual fictions plus the overall fiction as a whole e.g. metaplot and adventure logs. It sometimes can't even be fully seen until viewed in hindsight. The individual fictions cannot remain independent when they impact another character (e.g. your Bard Vicious-Wording my Fighter just got your fiction all up in my fiction) or the overall game (my Fighter just took down that orc which means it's dead to you too). But when my Fighter spins a grandly entertaining tale of derring-do in the highlands your Bard is still free to tell me exactly what I'm full of and then say "no, this is how it really went"...or just walk out. Here I agree; we don't need mechanics for everything. Lanefan [/QUOTE]
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