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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 7098465" data-attributes="member: 42582">The passage isn't ambiguous. It is talking about the character having his/her arm "busted" or otherwise losing an arm. And what "forces" the player to go along with this is nothing different from what "forces" the player, in a D&D game, to accept that - after being Thunderwaved - his/her PC is at place X (say, next to the pit) rather than place Y (say, next to his/her friend). It's an expectation in these games that once accepts the fiction that is established by application of the mechanics.(The actual move on the GM's part would, I think, be "deal damage" (p 168): "When you deal damage, choose one source of damage that’s fictionally threatening a character and apply it. . . . The amount of damage is decided by the source. . . . Most damage is based on a die roll." Though one would need to keep in mind (p 23) that "Damage can be assigned even when no move is made, if it follows from the fiction.")The basic principle is no different in BW than in DW, though the mechanics are different. If an action is declared "I chop his arm off!", and the resolution is successful (say, an Ob 4 Sword test) then the intent is realised and the victim's arm is chopped off.And I don't really see how a vorpal sword is that relevant: yes, that generates fiction that has teeth, but it's not as if a GM is free to creatively narrate vorpal effects at will. So it's hardly an illustration of D&D being more creative with respect to the creation of fiction-with-teeth than is BW.Well, as I posted upthread, I didn't realise that when you said "The GM can be more creative in D&D" you were referring to mere colour that has no teeth as far as resolution is concerned. And it's not clear why you think that the DW GM can't do the same - eg when announcing the increased danger, also introduce whatever additional toothless colour you think is open to the D&D GM?</blockquote>

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