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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 7100817" data-attributes="member: 42582">Aboslutely! The social life of human beings is predicated upon expectations, from the most trivial (that people won't spit on you when you greet them) to the most profound (eg between family members, or in romantic relationships or deep friendships).Social leisure activities are predicated upon expectations also (eg that if we go to a movie togther I won't talk the whole way through it). RPGs are nothing special in this regard.I think that what you say here would be controversial among many D&D players.At least as I have experienced conversations about these matters, many D&D players are not that concerned with, and even sometimes hostile to, actually esablishing at the table what is happening in the fiction when some mechanical event takes place.And in fact I think big chunks of 3E/PF depend upon a lack of such concern - eg we have mechanical phenomena like +30 natural armour bonuses (which are double the armour bonuses granted by the most powerful of enchanted armours) and DC 60 locks, with no real attempt to establish what in the fiction these mechanical elements correspond to. Likewise eg Reflex saves that don't actually require moving (and so, by the rules, can be made while balancing on a spire surrounded by a pit of infinite depth), etc.I think that 5e negates some of these issues (eg bonuses and DCs) via bounded accuracy, but not others (eg Reflex saves, action economy issues, etc). So I'm not surprised that you're getting some pusbhack from 5e-ers on your conception of how Vicious Mockery, Bardic Inspiration, etc work. (No one has yet mentioned how that would make, say, bards harder to play than fighters or even wizards, but I wouldn't be surprised to see that come up also.)</blockquote>

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