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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 7106259" data-attributes="member: 6696971">This is exactly right and your Burning Wheel hypothetical analogue is a proper one (even thought our situation was a bit different due to (a) player action declaration and (b) some procedural elements).  I was originally going to just break down the principles and general procedures initially, but it seems that some folks want to go a bit deeper into system on this, so I'm going to tag  [MENTION=6778044]Ilbranteloth[/MENTION] here.So one of the primary components of Dogs in the Vineyard conflict resolution is establishing what is at stake.  This is an area where  [MENTION=16586]Campbell[/MENTION] may have some issues given what I've seen him communicate and essays I've seen him link in this thread.  Everyone at the table gets a say and once we've agreed on the appropriate dramatic stakes (this is often pretty quick), we're good to go.  In this situation, the relevant player went a sort of soft version of Unforgiven (when William Money shoots the owner of the whorehouse/tavern) on the owner/operator.  Again, this is a border town and disputed territory so you've got a lot of folks who aren't members of The Faith and have pledged fealty to the big-money rancher who subsidized this establishment.  They're pretty belligerent about it because of it and the owner/operator is more than game for a fight.The conflict eschews "just talking" (Acuity + Heart dice pool) and goes straight to "physical, but not fighting" (Body + Heart dice pool) with the Dog in question picking up the big registry of customer transactions (filled with unrecognizable, fake names) and throwing it through the foyer window.  When a man comes through a door and begins to protest, the Dog confirms he's the owner.  He then flings the hat at him violently and tells him to bring the man who owns it to the foyer right now.Even though the owner/operator has a decent enough pool for this, he almost surely won't win (especially with the other two Dogs helping) and definitely won't if the players escalate it to fighting (they wouldn't escalate it to guns...or at least two of them wouldn't).  I'm (as the NPC in question) not going to escalate it even to fighting.The players think the best dramatic stakes are "did the brother wear the hat into the brothel...or someone else?"  In this case, they Give (lose) and the brother comes out...the owner Gives and someone else has the brother's hat.They win and the man is sufficiently intimidated.  He leads them to the door and, as the owner goes to knock, the door explodes open and boom...Follow-On Conflict which I frame, escalating the present situation but respecting their win.  No talking, no physical, no fighting...straight to gunfire in a narrow corridor.  Things go crazy pretty quickly as a few other members of a gang of cattle rustlers explode out of adjoining rooms.So its not the brother.  But its an enemy of the Dogs' mortal adversary in this Town (the rancher who is the manifestation of the territorial dispute and the primary purveyor of Sin).</blockquote>

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