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Judges Guild Makes Statement About Goodman Controversy [Updated]
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<blockquote data-quote="The Firebird" data-source="post: 9669349" data-attributes="member: 7015803"><p>Well, I think this analogy illustrates the problem I see--its flattening out the situation into "doing business with nazis", calling to mind actions like Bayer's during WWII. And I think that is unfair to GG.</p><p></p><p>I agree that there are certain "one strike" sort of offenses, like your goat example, or like Bledsaw's posts. In these cases I don't need to see any more. But I think applying those too liberally risks becoming judgemental and uncharitable, which is what I see happening here.</p><p></p><p>We know GG has a commitment to inclusivity, and that Joe Goodman has a personal stake in it. He's spoken about this. And we know he's gone out of his way to make sure Bledsaw doesn't profit and to use the royalties for a good cause.</p><p></p><p>So, the comparisons being made--you use the goat whisperer example to emphasize the magnitude of the crime--seem not to be taking into account this context. And I'd worry that this approach will end up alienating people with views like that of Joe Goodman, who are on the side of inclusivity but also see the product as ok.</p><p></p><p>Perhaps another way to phrase it--this guy has shown his commitment to inclusivity for years, he's bared his personal life to the crowd, he's shown why it matters, and he still gets compared to a goat lover or Nazi collaborator. That seems overzealous.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The simplest interpretation imo is that Goodman had no plans to do more JG stuff in 2020. They later hit on the refund idea and decided that made it ok, in their view. Perhaps this was 2022? Then they waited until they had finished other projects to be able to proceed. It seems pretty straightforward and in line with GG statements.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Like the above, the comparison to someone beating you up seems overwrought, imo.</p><p></p><p></p><p>And just to be clear, I'm not saying anyone should support his choice. I think it's quite reasonable for your opinion of him to decline a bit, to swear off the project and to not back it. But statements like "Joe Goodman has no problem working with Nazis" seem unfair. (Am I mischaracterizing what's been said? I don't think so, but happy to be corrected if I've pushed it too far).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Firebird, post: 9669349, member: 7015803"] Well, I think this analogy illustrates the problem I see--its flattening out the situation into "doing business with nazis", calling to mind actions like Bayer's during WWII. And I think that is unfair to GG. I agree that there are certain "one strike" sort of offenses, like your goat example, or like Bledsaw's posts. In these cases I don't need to see any more. But I think applying those too liberally risks becoming judgemental and uncharitable, which is what I see happening here. We know GG has a commitment to inclusivity, and that Joe Goodman has a personal stake in it. He's spoken about this. And we know he's gone out of his way to make sure Bledsaw doesn't profit and to use the royalties for a good cause. So, the comparisons being made--you use the goat whisperer example to emphasize the magnitude of the crime--seem not to be taking into account this context. And I'd worry that this approach will end up alienating people with views like that of Joe Goodman, who are on the side of inclusivity but also see the product as ok. Perhaps another way to phrase it--this guy has shown his commitment to inclusivity for years, he's bared his personal life to the crowd, he's shown why it matters, and he still gets compared to a goat lover or Nazi collaborator. That seems overzealous. The simplest interpretation imo is that Goodman had no plans to do more JG stuff in 2020. They later hit on the refund idea and decided that made it ok, in their view. Perhaps this was 2022? Then they waited until they had finished other projects to be able to proceed. It seems pretty straightforward and in line with GG statements. Like the above, the comparison to someone beating you up seems overwrought, imo. And just to be clear, I'm not saying anyone should support his choice. I think it's quite reasonable for your opinion of him to decline a bit, to swear off the project and to not back it. But statements like "Joe Goodman has no problem working with Nazis" seem unfair. (Am I mischaracterizing what's been said? I don't think so, but happy to be corrected if I've pushed it too far). [/QUOTE]
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