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<blockquote data-quote="Primitive Screwhead" data-source="post: 1737025" data-attributes="member: 20805"><p><strong>Soul Stories</strong></p><p></p><p>RigaMortis:</p><p> The SRD under Outsider and Elemental states "Unlike most other living creatures, an elemental does not have a dual nature—its soul and body form one unit. When an elemental is slain, no soul is set loose."</p><p> The SRD under Construct states "Since it was never alive, a construct cannot be raised or resurrected." Which had been interpreted on this thread as meaning no soul.</p><p> The SRD under the condition of 'Dead' states "The character’s soul leaves his body"</p><p> The SRD under Intelligent Weapon states "Intelligent items can actually be considered creatures because they have Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma scores. Treat them as constructs."</p><p></p><p>This means that 'most other living creatures' are of a dual nature and have a soul. 'Other living creature' includes those whose type description does not mention thier dual or singular nature.</p><p></p><p>==</p><p>The Corpse is not alive and does not have a choice.. the spells specify that the soul has the choice. Therefore the soul must carry the essense of the character and be capable of independant choice.</p><p>==</p><p>The scry question is one that can be debated forever, because its a question of interpretation. The crux of the matter is Does the spell target the physical husk of a character or the soul?</p><p>Would a Greater Scry let you view your buddy who, unbenownst to you was Magic Jarred into another body or would it Scry your buddies orginal body? What happens when your Scry target has, through magical means, sent his essence on an Astral Journey? Do you scry on the Astral projection on the Astral Plane, on the location of the Astral projection in the Material plane, or the apparently sleeping body?</p><p> By RAW, you scry on the character in question. So, what is the 'character'?</p><p>Whats your answer?</p><p></p><p>===</p><p>Oh, the interesting moral questions that arose in my campaign where intelligent swords were infused with a soul came from the LG types potentially using a weapon whose soul donor was an unwilling participant who now is enslaved inside the weapon. Would you, a LG type, continue to utilize such an enslaved soul, or destroy the weapon in order to release it?</p><p> Also, if you were creating a magic item, where do you get the soul from? There are very few people willing to place themselves into such an eternity of bondage. Most of the intelligent items in that game were made by evil mages who did not worry much about sacrificing some mook for the item.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Primitive Screwhead, post: 1737025, member: 20805"] [b]Soul Stories[/b] RigaMortis: The SRD under Outsider and Elemental states "Unlike most other living creatures, an elemental does not have a dual nature—its soul and body form one unit. When an elemental is slain, no soul is set loose." The SRD under Construct states "Since it was never alive, a construct cannot be raised or resurrected." Which had been interpreted on this thread as meaning no soul. The SRD under the condition of 'Dead' states "The character’s soul leaves his body" The SRD under Intelligent Weapon states "Intelligent items can actually be considered creatures because they have Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma scores. Treat them as constructs." This means that 'most other living creatures' are of a dual nature and have a soul. 'Other living creature' includes those whose type description does not mention thier dual or singular nature. == The Corpse is not alive and does not have a choice.. the spells specify that the soul has the choice. Therefore the soul must carry the essense of the character and be capable of independant choice. == The scry question is one that can be debated forever, because its a question of interpretation. The crux of the matter is Does the spell target the physical husk of a character or the soul? Would a Greater Scry let you view your buddy who, unbenownst to you was Magic Jarred into another body or would it Scry your buddies orginal body? What happens when your Scry target has, through magical means, sent his essence on an Astral Journey? Do you scry on the Astral projection on the Astral Plane, on the location of the Astral projection in the Material plane, or the apparently sleeping body? By RAW, you scry on the character in question. So, what is the 'character'? Whats your answer? === Oh, the interesting moral questions that arose in my campaign where intelligent swords were infused with a soul came from the LG types potentially using a weapon whose soul donor was an unwilling participant who now is enslaved inside the weapon. Would you, a LG type, continue to utilize such an enslaved soul, or destroy the weapon in order to release it? Also, if you were creating a magic item, where do you get the soul from? There are very few people willing to place themselves into such an eternity of bondage. Most of the intelligent items in that game were made by evil mages who did not worry much about sacrificing some mook for the item. [/QUOTE]
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