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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2978568" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Running is a full round action.</p><p></p><p>Charging is a full round action.</p><p></p><p>Withdrawing is a full round action.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Does it make sense to not be able to run and jump in mid-run?</p><p></p><p>What does the phrase "running start" mean in the Jump skill? What does the phrase "maximum movement" mean in the Jump skill?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The issue here is the phrase:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Can a Jump check be part of a move action? Yes.</p><p></p><p>Can it be part of some other type of action? Probably yes. This phrase states that it is part of a move action, but does not limit it to only move actions. Otherwise, it cannot be done while running.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So, can a Jump be made while running, charging, or withdrawing? Yes, no, and yes. It is not the Jump skill that prohibits it for charging, it is the charging action:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Withdraw does not have this type of limitation. You can move wherever and however you want up to a double move. You cannot Tumble while Withdrawing because Withdraw is not normal movement, it is a specialized form of movement which prevents an AoO:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The Jump skill does not restrict the movement, nor does it limit you to only doing it for a Move Action. One can interpret the "it is part of a move action" to limiting it only to a move action, but that phrase does not really do that. In fact, if you literally read that phrase to mean that, you could not Jump in the middle of a Double Move (two move actions, not one) either (which is just as silly as not allowing it for a Run action).</p><p></p><p></p><p>My vote: You can Jump as part of Running and as part of Withdrawing, but not as part of Charging.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 2978568, member: 2011"] Running is a full round action. Charging is a full round action. Withdrawing is a full round action. Does it make sense to not be able to run and jump in mid-run? What does the phrase "running start" mean in the Jump skill? What does the phrase "maximum movement" mean in the Jump skill? The issue here is the phrase: Can a Jump check be part of a move action? Yes. Can it be part of some other type of action? Probably yes. This phrase states that it is part of a move action, but does not limit it to only move actions. Otherwise, it cannot be done while running. So, can a Jump be made while running, charging, or withdrawing? Yes, no, and yes. It is not the Jump skill that prohibits it for charging, it is the charging action: Withdraw does not have this type of limitation. You can move wherever and however you want up to a double move. You cannot Tumble while Withdrawing because Withdraw is not normal movement, it is a specialized form of movement which prevents an AoO: The Jump skill does not restrict the movement, nor does it limit you to only doing it for a Move Action. One can interpret the "it is part of a move action" to limiting it only to a move action, but that phrase does not really do that. In fact, if you literally read that phrase to mean that, you could not Jump in the middle of a Double Move (two move actions, not one) either (which is just as silly as not allowing it for a Run action). My vote: You can Jump as part of Running and as part of Withdrawing, but not as part of Charging. [/QUOTE]
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