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<blockquote data-quote="Primitive Screwhead" data-source="post: 4603200" data-attributes="member: 20805">My apologies for rambling here...Yes, thats exactly what I am saying. Page 178 of the PHB talks about DCs and specifies that the &quot;...DM sets the DCs for specific situations based on level, conditions, and circumstances, as detailed in the Dungeon Masters Guide.&quot;On page 180 under Acrobatic Stunts, it calls out a 'Base DC' of 15, which probably should have been written as the DC under the First Aid use of Heal (pg 185 ), which states &quot;DC: Varies depending on the task you're attempting&quot; &nbsp;The only reason I can think they used &quot;Base DC&quot; here is that they were trying to address a wide range of stunt manuevers while still giving the player an idea of the intended difficulty range. It would be hard to put in a table, like they did with other skills, the individual types of stunts. Leaving it open to players leads to more imaginative use of the skill... {theoretically, still trying to get my group into using skill stunts...}&nbsp; I find that the DMG DC table gets alot of milage. Before each session I write down on a note-pad the medium DC and normal damage expressions for the level of the PCs... and tend to use those numbers a fair amount in the game instead of having to stop and calculate DCs. Just toss a DM friend here and there and call it a day.&nbsp;Best page of rules I have ever seen for gaming!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Primitive Screwhead, post: 4603200, member: 20805"] My apologies for rambling here... Yes, thats exactly what I am saying. Page 178 of the PHB talks about DCs and specifies that the "...DM sets the DCs for specific situations based on level, conditions, and circumstances, as detailed in the [i]Dungeon Masters Guide[/i]." On page 180 under Acrobatic Stunts, it calls out a 'Base DC' of 15, which probably should have been written as the DC under the First Aid use of Heal (pg 185 ), which states "[b]DC[/b]: Varies depending on the task you're attempting" The only reason I can think they used "Base DC" here is that they were trying to address a wide range of stunt manuevers while still giving the player an idea of the intended difficulty range. It would be hard to put in a table, like they did with other skills, the individual types of stunts. Leaving it open to players leads to more imaginative use of the skill... {theoretically, still trying to get my group into using skill stunts...} I find that the DMG DC table gets alot of milage. Before each session I write down on a note-pad the medium DC and normal damage expressions for the level of the PCs... and tend to use those numbers a fair amount in the game instead of having to stop and calculate DCs. Just toss a DM friend here and there and call it a day. Best page of rules I have ever seen for gaming! [/QUOTE]

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