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Jumping While Charging - Long v. High Jump; also, Charging on Stairs Question
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<blockquote data-quote="Atavar" data-source="post: 3369834" data-attributes="member: 7136"><p>Those are pretty handy illustrations! I think they also confirm my original opinions that a) The fighter couldn't charge attack the beholder and b) you often can NOT charge on stairs.</p><p></p><p>Here is what I mean:</p><p></p><p>a) In all of your illustrations with the beholder, the attacker is changing direction, from a battle grid perspective. With the high-jump example he makes a 90-degree turn, for goodness sake! With the long jump example, if you go on a square-by-square basis, the attacker changes direction (i.e. not moving in a straight line). If he had spring attack, or found a way to end his turn's movement in just the right square, I agree that he could attack the beholder. But can he attack as part of a charge (in the sense of getting a +2 to his attack)? I say no.</p><p></p><p>b) In both of the stair illustrations the attacker is changing direction. Sure, if he and his opponent were both on the stairs or at the very top or bottom of the stairs, then there would be a straight line between you and your opponent and you could make a charge attack. But in both illustrations the attacker needs to move to the top of the stairs, and THEN change direction. If he has enough movement then of course he can make an attack at the end of his move if he ends up near enough to the opponent. But is it a charge attack with a +2 bonus? I say no.</p><p></p><p>YMMV, I guess.</p><p></p><p>Thanks for the great replies, everyone!</p><p></p><p>Atavar</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Atavar, post: 3369834, member: 7136"] Those are pretty handy illustrations! I think they also confirm my original opinions that a) The fighter couldn't charge attack the beholder and b) you often can NOT charge on stairs. Here is what I mean: a) In all of your illustrations with the beholder, the attacker is changing direction, from a battle grid perspective. With the high-jump example he makes a 90-degree turn, for goodness sake! With the long jump example, if you go on a square-by-square basis, the attacker changes direction (i.e. not moving in a straight line). If he had spring attack, or found a way to end his turn's movement in just the right square, I agree that he could attack the beholder. But can he attack as part of a charge (in the sense of getting a +2 to his attack)? I say no. b) In both of the stair illustrations the attacker is changing direction. Sure, if he and his opponent were both on the stairs or at the very top or bottom of the stairs, then there would be a straight line between you and your opponent and you could make a charge attack. But in both illustrations the attacker needs to move to the top of the stairs, and THEN change direction. If he has enough movement then of course he can make an attack at the end of his move if he ends up near enough to the opponent. But is it a charge attack with a +2 bonus? I say no. YMMV, I guess. Thanks for the great replies, everyone! Atavar [/QUOTE]
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